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Old 08-24-2010, 12:01 PM   #1
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Tow vehicle for 30' AS Classic slideout

I'm in the process of buying a 2005 AS Classic 30" with SO. The GVWR is 9100. Need to buy a new truck for towing. I'm assuming a 3/4 T diesel based on trailer weight. Several friends here have suggested the Chev Silverado 2500, GMC 2500 Sierra/Denali with Duramax/Allison and 13,000 towing capacity, or, Ford F250 with 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel V-8 and 14,000 towing capacity. Will probably go for crew cab, short bed and 2WD.
Thanks for any recommendations based on your personal experience.
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:11 PM   #2
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I agree with your friends. A V10 Ford gasser will also work if you are uncomfortable with diesel.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:01 PM   #3
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You should be ok with one of the new GM or Ford 3/4 tons. The payload capacity is what I would pay attention to, and probably spend the $9 to weigh one prior to purchase. It looks like the tongue weight is 1125 lbs (dry and unloaded). The payload of the GMs you mention is about 3300, prior to options, fuel, passengers and anything you put in the bed. It all adds up quick. One member here found his new Ford weighed ~900 lbs more than the sticker due to options. My '06 Ram is over the sticker as well.

Good luck, it should be a nice trailer.
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Late model 3/4 ton or better chassis with diesel powerplant. /thread
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:49 PM   #5
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Yup, it's got big tongue weight. 3/4 or one ton and a diesel or V10 should do the job just fine.

If I were you, I'd consider four wheel drive. It adds complexity, weight, cost, maintenance, and might cost a little big in mpg., etc. So: several downsides. But I've several times been in places (including "real" campgrounds) where, due to mud, sand or snow, I would not have gotten in (or perhaps out) without a tow or a wrecker call if I didn't have 4WD. All the torque in the world won't help you move that trailer if you've got wheelspin. Also, a locking rear differential will help a lot in some situations ... at least it will give you 2WD instead of one wheel spinning.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:39 AM   #6
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Thanks for the tongue weight and 4WD inputs. Will check on these as I move forward. Thoughts of mud, snow and tow trucks is enough by itself to go for 4WD. Had not thought about the base tongue weight without added fuel, passengers or load. By the time you add fuel and etc it doesn't take much to hit the max.
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We have a 3/4 ton crew cab 4wd; simply a wonderful tow vehicle. However, we do run out of GVW pretty quickly if we're carrying 4 people, tools, etc. I will echo the usefulness of four wheel drive, though; I've had the Tin Pickle in places I'd have been utterly stuck w/ 2wd. Also, by using 4 low w/o the front hubs locked, I can avoid overheating the transmission on steep, slow roads even though they're paved or otherwise don't need 4wd.

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We have been looking at trucks because in about two years we are looking to buy one. I like the Ford over the rest. My farther in law has a dodge and it works well but has its problems. Our neighbor has a two year old Ford and loves it. Other factor for me is Ford didn't take all that bail out money. In my mind thats worth giving them my business. Why would I want to give money to a company that couldn't run its self and then used my tax money to bail it's self out and spend it on commercials. NO THANKS>
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I bought a 4WD V10 because it was there were no 2WD V10s left in CA. I otherwise would never have bought a 4WD but now that I have it I love it. I think it costs me about 1-2MPG but is worth it.
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I'm in the process of buying a 2005 AS Classic 30" with SO. The GVWR is 9100. Need to buy a new truck for towing. I'm assuming a 3/4 T diesel based on trailer weight. Several friends here have suggested the Chev Silverado 2500, GMC 2500 Sierra/Denali with Duramax/Allison and 13,000 towing capacity, or, Ford F250 with 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel V-8 and 14,000 towing capacity. Will probably go for crew cab, short bed and 2WD.
Thanks for any recommendations based on your personal experience.
David
Well I'm partial to Dodge.

However, I recommend thinking seriously about the 4WD. I have run into several circumstances where you would not need 4WD if not towing, but it became necessary when towing. It usually involved backing uphill in gravel. Although a couple of times involved other slippery surfaces.

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I bought a 4WD V10 because it was there were no 2WD V10s left in CA. I otherwise would never have bought a 4WD but now that I have it I love it. I think it costs me about 1-2MPG but is worth it.
You'll love it even more if you're parked on wet grass when making an early morning departure!
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:09 PM   #12
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DL46,

We have a 2004 30' SO which we purchased new and tow it with a Silverado 3500 Duramax/Allison 6 speed. The truck is a little overkill but does a great job. We travel about 8 months of the year carrying a lot of items in the bed of the truck along with two kayaks strapped on the cab of the truck. We currently have a little over 90K miles on the truck, and 35k pulling the Airstream. Generally we get 20mpg without the AS and 15mpg towing the AS. We have had no problems with the stiff ride that some folks seem to worry about. Be sure to do your homework on the best hitch and the correct hitch setup.

Unless you have a super deal on the 30' SO you may want to consider a straight 31'. We have had our 30'SO six years, and while we thoroughly enjoy it, I do not think there is that much to be gained. Spending long periods at a time in the AS the slide does give you somewhat a feeling of more room. However, everything is built right to the limit. Check the weight limits for your axels. Many of the early models were equipped with 4400# axels and it was assumed the tongue weight would absorb the additional 300#. Also if you check the aluminum wheels you will find that at max inflation they are rated at 2350# and of course most of the D load rated tires are 2500#. With the SO model you loose a lot of overhead storage along with a credenza and there is some dead space between the slide and the microwave cabinet just so the slide can operate freely. Most importantly the AS has to be very level and stabilizer jacks down to operate the slide. We have never had a mechanical problem with ours - knock on wood - but I know several people who have had electrical problems along with some mechanical problems. Just some food for thought
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:03 PM   #13
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I think our '05 Suburban 8.1L, 4x4, 2500 makes an outstanding tow vehicle for our 30' S/O.
One key upgrade was the hitch receiver- OEM is inadequate.

Smooth, quiet, roomy, even with the 3.73 rear, never lacking for power
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Recommend 4x4 just in case.

Unfortunately, they don't make the Suburban with the 8.1L.
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