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Old 11-10-2010, 11:32 AM   #15
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4x4, absolutely.
Been in plenty of SP, and the best sites are always pull through beach sand

Too bad the 496 is no longer an option- it's a monster.. never wanting for power

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Old 11-10-2010, 08:11 PM   #16
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I traded our '07 1/2 ton gasser for an '08 3/4 ton GMC Diesel last December. The truck was used. I can tell you Diesels are expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, the fuel is more expensive, they make more noise, the fuel stinks, and there are more things to service. But, when you hook up to the trailer and take off, you forget about all that and just enjoy the effortless ride. Nothing beets the torque of a Diesel.

Our truck is 4WD, and the first 4WD I've had for towing. Went on a long trip last summer (14,000+ miles) to Alaska, have been to several rallys in the area, and other than checking the 4WD when I got the truck, have never used it. Also never needed it with any of the other tow vehicles I've owned. Not to say I never will, but just have not needed it.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

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Old 11-10-2010, 09:00 PM   #17
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I wish we had an opportunity to purchase an '05 30 footer with SO. But, we are very happy with our 1997, 30' Classic Limited. We searched and looked for a couple of years to find our trailer and and finally found our dream. We now plan to live full time in it.

Regarding TV's, particularly pulling TT's with tongue weights that yours has, more is better. Skip the gassers. Everyone with the V10 will state it is a great engine then go into the terrible gas mileage they are famous for. Think diesel, just compare the torque versus any gasser. Ignore costs, I suspect they come out somewhat even, but it's about quality of travel life. The diesels pull effortlessly, shift far less frequently, and have the reserve power to pass when necessary.

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Old 03-10-2011, 01:31 AM   #18
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Does anyone leave the 4X4 engaged all the time while pulling the trailer? I was talking to a salesman and he said he pulls his airstream with the 4X4 on at all times. He said it gives him a sense of more control. Anyone else heard or does this?
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:22 AM   #19
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Our 2001 Ford w/7.3 diesel has almost 90k miles.Two batteries a water pump and brakes pads.Thats it for 10 years of service. I have done all my own maintenance. Its expensive YES, would I buy the same truck again YES. Everyone has thier own favorites. I prefer the LONG BED Crew cab because of the longer wheel base and thus a better ride over the short bed. Fuel mileage towin is about 16 mpg. NOT bad for an almost 14k lb rig.
IF ya like quiet Id go with DURAMAX and Allision. Dodge with the Cummins has become quieter but still louder that the FORD.
At any rate you have to pick your favorite and what you will be satisfied with 10 yrs down the road. OH our F350 is now 10 yrs old. I didnt buy 4 WD and In the 10 yrs I have not gotten into a situation where thought I need it.
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:31 AM   #20
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I do not know what kind of vehicle your salseman has that lets him run in 4 wheel drive all the time. Maybe a set of warn hubs. maybe one of the full time 4 wheel drives on a SUV. 4 wheel driveon my truck and I think most trucks depends upon the wheels being able to slip to even up the differences in rolling distance between the wheels. Running a standard 4 wheel drive in 4 wheel on pavement pulling a trailer will rip out the drive system pretty quickly. some people do put on hubs so that they can back and park in 4 wheel low range with only the rear wheels turning.
I drive a 2007 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel and love it. Not as good a vehicle as the ford or gm, but still a darn nice towing machine. New, with a big budget, I would look at the new ford and gmc. I think you should get a 350 or 3500.

I have used 4 wheel drive once while towing. In Yellowstone I pulled over too far in a rest area stop and found I was in a gravel bar instead of the parking lot. Thank goodness for 4 w, low range. That was the happiest 15 feet I have driven when it came out. lots of people like a van or surbaban. I like the pickup with a low bet cover better. drive it everyday and like being able to see behind me.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:47 AM   #21
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Disc Brakes?

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I'm in the process of buying a 2005 AS Classic 30" with SO. The GVWR is 9100. Need to buy a new truck for towing. I'm assuming a 3/4 T diesel based on trailer weight. Several friends here have suggested the Chev Silverado 2500, GMC 2500 Sierra/Denali with Duramax/Allison and 13,000 towing capacity, or, Ford F250 with 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel V-8 and 14,000 towing capacity. Will probably go for crew cab, short bed and 2WD.
Thanks for any recommendations based on your personal experience.
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If the AS is equipped with E/H disc brakes, then one had best confirm that the truck will operatge the system before buying the truck. Ford will, but I am uncertain of the other truck mfgs.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:59 AM   #22
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4WD on my Ford is not to be used on level pavement per the owners manual. a cousin of mine just blew out her 4WD because she towed on flat pavement with it.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:06 AM   #23
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I'll second what Bill said. Never drive a regular 4x4 with all 4 wheels on a dry nonslip surface like asphalt or concrete. But there are a few fancy new all wheel drive systems out there now that are designed to be engaged full time. So we're not sure what your salesman is driving or maybe he's never owned a 4x4 or pulled a trailer...

As for the need for a 4x4 tow vehicle, a well kept secret is that the best places to camp aren't concrete pads at the end of paved roads. And sometimes you need the 4x4 after you've unhitched and are exploring.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:10 AM   #24
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If the AS is equipped with E/H disc brakes, then one had best confirm that the truck will operatge the system before buying the truck. Ford will, but I am uncertain of the other truck mfgs.
I read an article in Trailer Life a while back that was talking about the built in brake controllers on Ford, GM, and Dodge. At that time, the only built in controller that would work with electric over hydraulic disc brakes (kind used in AS Classic) was the Ford. I believe the Ford is provided by Teshkona which is probably why it works with AS.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:43 PM   #25
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We have a 2002 30' Classic SO and couldn't be happier. That extra room is worth it, even if you are just camping. I tow with a 2008 F-250 Supercab Shortbed V-10 and after 81,500 miles, I couldn't be happier with it either. No doubt that diesels have more torque and some even get better mileage, but we have been down this road before as to gas vs diesel. Plenty of threads to read on that subject. Suffice it to say that any 3/4-1 ton vehicle can tow most any AS comfortably, regardless of engine type or size.

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