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Old 08-12-2017, 07:09 AM   #85
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I'll say it again and again, you don't NEED a diesel with 500 hp, you WANT one. Any of the gas motors on most pickups, in all 3 sizes, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton, will tow any Airstream made.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:53 AM   #87
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It is worth considering the new Nissan Titan. Although only in gas, I bought one in February and it certainly does perform for me. I purchased the base model at 31K which includes power windows, locks, etc, tow package which includes towing mode for the transmission. We have a 23FB which, all loaded, weighed in at 5880. We also have a lot of stuff in the bed of the truck. The Titan tows it like the trailer wasn't there. We went to souther CA via i40 which had a few 6% and 7% grades and we powered up without any strain at all and the car did almost all the breaking via the transmission. I only tapped the brakes 2 or 3 times going down those grades.

The fuel mileage isn't that great, but do your math, the difference in fuel economy vs a $45K truck may not be worth it.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:57 AM   #88
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Drive a new diesel from GM or Ford and see for yourself.
Or better yet, drive a 5 yr old diesel and see what is down the road.
I hope the time has come for good US diesels. I remember when GM tried pushing diesels in passenger cars. They took a gas block, put different heads on and called it a diesel. Unfortunately, they didn't beef up the main bearings for the extra compression and killed off the US diesel concept.
I can only testify to my friend's F-250 he bought for a small fifth wheel. It was a diesel. By 85,000 miles he had spent over $9,000 repairing the engine, and he traded it.
If you follow the YouTube couple "LoLoHO", they have several videos on "bulletproofing" their Ford. Sounds expensive. But wait, I thought Ford diesels were already bulletproof?

For you folks that trade every year or two I understand why you're believers. Since I keep vehicles for a long time, I'll let someone else do the beta testing.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:24 AM   #89
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Diesel way better than gas

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I even love my 2017 F-250 Diesel as a daily driver. I have a lot fun with hot shot punks pulling away from a traffic light. I beat them every time.
An old dude in a pick up truck. Of course I have 920 # of torque and empty it will do wheelies.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:40 PM   #90
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:51 PM   #91
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I have a friend that was a senior chemical engineer for Exxon Mobil who's job had been to create fuel blend additives for many years.He explained that with the additives they can take 1 gallon of Dino fuel and make 3 gallons of today's gasoline and that is why the fuel is no longer pink as it was until the 80's and is now clear.He also stated that the chemical additives make it much harder wash off than the Dino fuel we used to know.The gasoline that we are currently burning is mostly a blend of chemical additives.We first met when he bought a new Lamborghini from me and we became friends over the years.
Yeah, I've heard stuff like this off and on over the years. Not sure I buy it, and both fuels do smell.
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I even love my 2017 F-250 Diesel as a daily driver. I have a lot fun with hot shot punks pulling away from a traffic light. I beat them every time.
An old dude in a pick up truck. Of course I have 920 # of torque and empty it will do wheelies.
Maybe if you goose the gas and bounce the front end. Mine will too. But from a dead start? Video or it didn't happen.
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Of course I have 920 # of torque and empty it will do wheelies.

That's what the 1,400 pound bars are to prevent. Works well keeping my front end on the ground. Otherwise.....
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:59 PM   #94
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Lol. Ummmm no they don't. They are nice though!
17 6.7 Cummings -370 hp up to 800 ft lbs of torque, no factory gas engine comes close....1400 rpm and 63 mph all day long with 13 31' classic....LOL
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Or better yet, drive a 5 yr old diesel and see what is down the road.
I hope the time has come for good US diesels. I remember when GM tried pushing diesels in passenger cars. They took a gas block, put different heads on and called it a diesel. Unfortunately, they didn't beef up the main bearings for the extra compression and killed off the US diesel concept.
I can only testify to my friend's F-250 he bought for a small fifth wheel. It was a diesel. By 85,000 miles he had spent over $9,000 repairing the engine, and he traded it.
If you follow the YouTube couple "LoLoHO", they have several videos on "bulletproofing" their Ford. Sounds expensive. But wait, I thought Ford diesels were already bulletproof?

For you folks that trade every year or two I understand why you're believers. Since I keep vehicles for a long time, I'll let someone else do the beta testing.
I do know of a few 350 diesels that run a long time, the F250 Ford was probably the 6 liter Ford which was a mostly lemon and Ford wouldn't stand behind it, so I switched to Dodge with the 6.7 cummins in 2007, no problems for 10 years and 110,000 miles, now have 17 and it is even better mileage 14 and 20.....
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17 6.7 Cummings -370 hp up to 800 ft lbs of torque, no factory gas engine comes close....1400 rpm and 63 mph all day long with 13 31' classic....LOL
The claim that was being disputed was that a pickup diesel at idle speed has more hp than a comparable gas engine at 4500-5500 rpm. It is an absurd and laughable claim.

Even if the poster meant more torque, it is incorrect.
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17 6.7 Cummings -370 hp up to 800 ft lbs of torque, no factory gas engine comes close....1400 rpm and 63 mph all day long with 13 31' classic....LOL
Only 370 hp? That's disappointing. Glad I got the 6.2 with almost 400 hp
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Only 370 hp? That's disappointing. Glad I got the 6.2 with almost 400 hp
I have been around them , fine for small trailer, level ground, and not going too far...
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