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Old 03-09-2004, 05:00 PM   #15
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Greetings.

Did a little research, and it is looking like the Chevy Tahoe LT with a V8 might just be the beast. The LT come pretty loaded, but then again it is listing at over $41,000. The LS model has a V6 engine.

Any Tahoe owners out there that can share your experiances???

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There in NO V6 engine available for the Tahoe. You get a choice of either the 4.8 L or the 5.3L V8.

A Tahoe with the 5.3, tow package and 3.73 gears (4.10s would be better, an option on the 4X4 if you can find one) would be fine for a 25' Safari, marginal for any of the 28' Safari or the 25' Classic.

I've had my 03 Z71 Tahoe for nearly a year and and very happy with it.
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Old 03-09-2004, 05:55 PM   #16
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Tow vehicle advice needed....

Greetings Johnathan!

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While my tow rig isn't a Tahoe, it is its bigger brother, a K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.10 Differentials). Both series share the same production line in Janesville, WI. If you have any questions or concerns about build quality or attention to detail, I would urge you to consider making the (relatively) short drive to Janesville and take the factory tour - - it is truely and interesting experience (I have toured there three times - - once on the day that my Suburban was built - - unfortunately, I didn't get to see it going down the line). You might want to make a quick call to customer relations at the plant to see when the tours for the public are conducted - - the last time that I visited, I believe that they were offered twice a week (but may be more often during the summer).

After nearly six years with my '99 Suburban (Delivered April 21, 1998), I continue to be totally satisfied with all aspects of its quality. The odometer just turned 124,000 miles, and I have had absolutely no unusual repairs - - other than a persistent problem with the electronic controls on the transfer case that were repaird under GM warranty programs. Even at its current mileage, I have no qualms about heading out with the Overlander to any point on the North American continent. I know that my Suburban is of the older design, but I strongly suspect that the current version is just as well built over at the Janesville Assembly Plant.

My advice would be to stick with something under 24' with the Tahoe. The Suburban with the larger motor would make a more proficient tow vehicle for the longer trailers - - I only kept my K1500 tow vehicle for 45,000 miles because it performed so poorly with the Overlander (within 500 pounds of GCVWR).

If you plan to buy new, I would encourage you to hold-out for a special order to your specifications. Most dealers with any kind of history selling Tahoe/Suburban vehicles should be able to special order for a 90-to-120-day delivery window. When I purchased my Suburban in '98, the deal was just as good and it was possible to get the truck equipped precisely the way I wanted it - - it also helped to have a dealer with an experienced truck salesman (this was in an agricultural area in a GMC dealership) who new the ins and outs of ordering heavy duty tow vehicles.

Good luck with your tow vehicle decision.

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Old 03-09-2004, 06:16 PM   #17
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IMHO, the Tahoe wheelbase is about right for a 22' International and so is the 5.3L. A young man here is finding the 5.3L marginal towing an empty 25 Safari with only him and his toothbrush.
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Hi, Craz

Hi, Craz...

I just went thru this very same thing a month or two ago..

Infact you can read some of my inquiries back down the list..

I've got a 29ft Excella, and at the time had a Chevy Tahoe to drag it with. It had a 5300 vortec with a 3.73 rear-end.

As a vehicle we Really liked the Tahoe,....BUT....It was just TOO Light to pull this size trailer for any distance, and especially up into the mountains.

I received some good advice from folks all over the country in this forum.

I recently traded in the Tahoe and bought a Suburban 2500, with a 8100-Vortec engine and 3.73 rear-end.

That thing REALLY has the power, and I like the longer length of the wheelbase for added stability !!

It is infact a "Garage-full" but it fits in a standard sized garage
at my house.

This thing has a built-in transmission temp gage as well.

Of course the mileage is not what we were used to with the Tahoe,.....But I sure like it,....lots of room to carry additional
"Stuff",.....and it'll yank that trailer up and down these mountain passed in Colorado without breaking a sweat !

Many people on this forum recommended the Suburban to me....

and they did GOOD ! ha!

Put it on your list...and take a look at one..

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Old 03-09-2004, 08:10 PM   #19
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Crazylev,

Had I bought a Tahoe instead of the Trailblazer I probably would not be thinking of a new vehicle again after 2-1/2 years. But then I had no idea I would be an Airstream owner or be towing anything. I think the Tahoe would pull a 25 footer or 28 footer OK. It is essentially a short Suburban and I like that 4.3 Vortec V8. I had one in my previous '99 Silverado.

Since my garage will hold it, as I said before, my sights are set on an Avalanche with the same length and wheelbase as the Suburban. Also the comparable price points seem to be about the same or maybe less than the Tahoe and much less than the Suburban. Also, moving up to a 3/4 ton vehicle is something I am mulling over.

The other thing I like about the Avalanche is it has some of the advantages of a big pickup for hauling gasoline tanks and other messy stuff you might not want to put inside in the back of an SUV yet has the towing capacity of most of the big pickups with less overall length. But I digress unless you are planning on expanding your garage.
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:49 PM   #20
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Crazylev,

If you are partial to "German", then Dodge could be considered German since Chrysler was acquired/merged with Daimler-Mercedes Maybe I should say I have a Mercedes-Durango!

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Old 03-10-2004, 06:31 AM   #21
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Davydd ... Another thing to consider about the Avalanche ... following after the Pontiac Aztec which is the ugliest vehicle ever built, the Avalanche is IMHO the second ugliest vehicle ever built! Sure wish Chevy hadn't decided to use this front end on their heavy duty pick-ups.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:41 AM   #22
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Ah, but...

Avalanche can now be had without the rubber waders and in that incarnation looks nothing more than like a Suburban sedan to me.

BTW, I think the Honda Pilot is giving the Aztec a go for ugly. The only difference is the Pilot seems to strike a chord on personality whereas the Aztec struck out.
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Yeah ... I agree with you on the Honda Pilot. It is truly the essence of bland. It's like looking at a bowl of mashed potatoes without any salt, pepper, butter, or gravy.
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:28 AM   #25
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Nissan Pathfinder Armada, Ford Expedition

Well I have been reading all the threads and am confused..We also are looking for a new tow vehicle..but, we need a SUV for hauling people & stuff...pulling a 29' 6800lb. (weighed it yesterday) trailer...we were going to get the Expedition with the 5.4 (we are a Ford family)(supposed to pick it up TODAY) to replace the Explorer that we have been using only for short trips recently since we got the trailer..but Consuer Reports does not recommend it nor does Motor Trend and now Car and Driver...which recommends the Nissan Pathfinder Armada. It is rated higher than the Expedition for towing..power etc... sister to the Titan. According to Car and Driver the Armada is the TOW VEHICLE to get.. now I might add that I have to drive this vehicle everyday around town so the Excursion and the like are just tooo big for me...drove a diesel and it was way too noisy for me...I am going this morning to see the Armada...will it be enough engine?? Rated at 9100lbs. Check out Car and Driver...So all of you out there, any suggestions...
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All of the vehicles you mention are inadequate for a 29' 6800 lb Airstream, IMHO. They are half-ton trucks, loaded down with extra bodywork, seats, and luxuries, and you'll also load it up with family and cargo, leaving little for carrying tongue weight and pulling a load. IMHO, you NEED an Excursion, with at least the gas V-10, if you will be towing that trailer with a family in the vehicle.

Have you driven the 6.0L diesel? It's among the quietest and will get better mileage than the V-10.
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<<<There in NO V6 engine available for the Tahoe. You get a choice of either the 4.8 L or the 5.3L V8.

A Tahoe with the 5.3, tow package and 3.73 gears (4.10s would be better, an option on the 4X4 if you can find one) would be fine for a 25' Safari, marginal for any of the 28' Safari or the 25' Classic.>>>>

I bought a 2000 Tahoe Z71 V8 5.7liter.
I've since been told that was the last year they offered 5.7 liter.
I pulled my Globetrotter from the California Coast to the Texas Gulf Coast and back and never felt like I had a trailer behind me.
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Well I have been reading all the threads and am confused..We also are looking for a new tow vehicle..but, we need a SUV for hauling people & stuff...pulling a 29' 6800lb. (weighed it yesterday) trailer... According to Car and Driver the Armada is the TOW VEHICLE to get.. now I might add that I have to drive this vehicle everyday around town so the Excursion and the like are just tooo big for me...drove a diesel and it was way too noisy for me...I am going this morning to see the Armada...will it be enough engine?? Rated at 9100lbs. Check out Car and Driver...So all of you out there, any suggestions...
I agree with Moe... If you want an SUV go with either the Suburban or Excursion. They're both very civilized as a daily drivers, and get reasonable gas mileage. My wife loves driving our Ex. IMHO they're really the only two choices in SUVs for pulling 28+ trailers that weigh 7k+. The Armada/Titan is probably just enough engine, but NOT enough weight.

Please read the discussion on this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ighlight=Titan

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