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Old 04-08-2018, 01:48 PM   #1
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Tow Vehicle Advice Needed

We are looking to buy an AS 27’ or 30’ Flying Cloud or Classic. What type of tow vehicle should we get? We are considering Ford F-150 or F-250 and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 or 2500. Car dealerships have advised us to get the bigger of the two models. We will be driving all over the U.S. all year long.
All advice and opinions are welcome and appreciated on the tow vehicle and model of AS. Thanks!!!
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Welcome to the forum.

This is waaaaay to open for personal opinion.

I would first recommend heading to the nearest full AS dealer and SIT in as many units as possible. Get a "feel" for the unit you like best.

From there look at your tow vehicle (TV) but, you will also need to weigh if the TV doubles as a daily driver etc. Again, go test drive as many as possible. A 1/2 ton will drive more comfortable than 3/4-1tons. However, 3/4+ gives you more payload and better pulling options (engine).

Good luck in your hunt!
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Don’t forget if you buy a propride/Hensley hitch you can tow the 30’ with any vehicle you want - even a “little” mustang...
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:58 PM   #4
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Go with the 250...be way ahead
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Phone Andy Thompson at Can-am RV in London Ontario. If there was an expert on what can tow what, it's him. You'd be surprised at what vehicles he has modified to tow anything. Ask him for a modified (where the vehicles hitch will need to be beefed up) list, and a list of unmodified vehicles for the length of trailer you plan on pulling.

Of all people, he'd give you the straight goods on what packages or options to buy or not to buy. Be sure to give him all pertinent information, like amount of people, (adults, kids), items you plan to take with you, (generators, bikes) and most important, anticipated terrain you wish to travel, (mountainous or relatively flat land). If you have a peticular brand of manufacturer that you like, or don't like, I'd include that too, but be open to some really bizarre options, as he last towed a 30' new AS with a Chrysler 300C sedan.

I'd phone him just to introduce yourself, and them e-mail him all the information he needs.

As for 27' or 30', you need to go see some trailers and try them out.

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Go with the F250 or 2500, save yourself some time.

You won’t regret it.
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The real question is... gas vs diesel
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X2.

The real question is... gas vs diesel
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The real question is... gas vs diesel
Well......... that’s an “it depends”.

I absolutely LOVE diesel, but I can baby ours myself and really lessen the cost of maintenance. If you can do that, or don’t mind paying someone else to do it, I would recommend a diesel. Of course, mine is a 1995 PowerStroke, so it is archaic by today’s trucks. Mine is a cream puff at 129,000 miles! But the lack of “tech” and def is a huge plus in my book! And, it sounds like a DIESEL!

If I didn’t go the diesel route, I would obviously get the biggest gasser I could find. From there, apply your personal preferences, wants, and abilities. (I wish I had my Dad’s 1979 F250 that had a 460 automatic..... that was a beautiful truck and only had 70,000 pampered, Avion-towing miles on it when he sold it in 2003....... didn’t have a use for it at the time, and had other expenses to deal with..... sad!!)
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The diesel 3/4 ton will tow better. Period. But it will not be as smooth for a daily driver.
The F150 ecoboost can handle it. But it is easy to exceed payload, if you carry much in your truck.
If your primary function is towing, go 3/4 ton.
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I think diesel. A salesperson told me the 2019 Ford F-150 will be available in diesel too.
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I think diesel. A salesperson told me the 2019 Ford F-150 will be available in diesel too.
Before you commit to a fuel type, you need to weigh carefully the pro's and cons of both

Gas

Cheaper to buy
Fuel is cheaper. no additives like DEF or fuel conditioners required.
Parts are cheaper (excluding turbo's)
Maintenance is cheaper, (unless you have turbo's)
Easier to find fuel in some circumstances, (especially in cities)
Maybe less in resale, but that depends on reliability of motor (Ford's small diesel is untested)
Better payload numbers, as diesel engine is heavier and will cut into payload.

Diesel

Better torque and pulling power
I'm going to add longevity based on proven diesel designs BUT, and it's a big BUT, the newer diesels, I'm not convinced they will last as long.

Look long and hard, get some frequent maintenance figures, (oil changes, DEF fluid, injectors) before you pull the trigger.

Yes, there's a mini van crowd, SUV crowd, 1/2 ton crowd, 3/4 ton crowd and even people that wouldn't dream of towing, with anything less than a 1 ton dually. I belong to the crowd that thinks you trailer people are crazy for towing anything! We are convinced that the others are lunatics for towing that, with that; relax, ask the experts and make a decision that is comfortable to you.

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Mine is a cream puff at 129,000 miles! But the lack of “tech” and def is a huge plus in my book!

Yeah, I guess the diesel particulates you inhale when standing around the truck when it’s running that cause lung cancer are worth the extra 2-3 HP

I watched a couple pretty good videos on this today:

How a modern Diesel engine works:



Why a diesel particulate filter is important and how to keep yours problem free:



I have a 2017 gmc 2500 diesel with all the tech - and I like it that way

Sorry, back on topic:

3/4 ton if you are going to travel extensively no doubt. You may even consider a 1-ton. The only difference (for GM anyways) is 5 leaf springs in the back (vs 4) and 18” tires (vs 20). For the gmc you get another 800lbs if payload with the additional leaf spring and stronger tires.

Anyhoo the big 3 all make fine products. Buy a new one with the tech - Mother Earth and your lungs will thank you!
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Go with the F250 or 2500, save yourself some time.

You won’t regret it.
I'm with PaulnGina. Hands down, 3/4 ton. If you've got the money, and drive long and lots, a diesel, if you want to save a few bucks, and like me are prone to making a bunch of short trips, grocery store runs, to the pharmacy, 10 miles to wherever and back, a gasser might be better.

But definitely a 3/4 ton over a half ton.
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