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06-20-2018, 03:20 PM
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#101
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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'06 8.1 2500 Suburban...and my wife is prettier.😂😘
Bob
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I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
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10-01-2018, 10:57 PM
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#102
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3 Rivet Member
1971 25' Caravanner
scappoose
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 206
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Finally waded thru this whole thread,, what a workout.
No axe to grind,, just thinking about the HP vs Torque thing, and thought about the old F1 cars from ~15 years ago, (I haven't kept up on them lately).
Anyway, a typical 3.0 engine was developing ~800 HP at ~16,000 rpm,, but the torque at that speed is only ~260 ft lbs.
But,, the little F1 car doesn't need much torque, because it weighs almost nothing,, but it takes a lot of HP to go FAST,, the element of TIME is what makes the grasp of torque vs horsepower a stumbling block to many.
Back in the '60s, GMC made a 702in V-12 gasser,, it had a lot of torque,, and used a lot of fuel too.
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10-03-2018, 01:11 AM
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#103
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rangebowdrie
Finally waded thru this whole thread,, what a workout.
No axe to grind,, just thinking about the HP vs Torque thing, and thought about the old F1 cars from ~15 years ago, (I haven't kept up on them lately).
Anyway, a typical 3.0 engine was developing ~800 HP at ~16,000 rpm,, but the torque at that speed is only ~260 ft lbs.
But,, the little F1 car doesn't need much torque, because it weighs almost nothing,, but it takes a lot of HP to go FAST,, the element of TIME is what makes the grasp of torque vs horsepower a stumbling block to many.
Back in the '60s, GMC made a 702in V-12 gasser,, it had a lot of torque,, and used a lot of fuel too.
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Yep....they weren’t around very long.short lived and high maintenance
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10-03-2018, 02:07 AM
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#104
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4 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
'06 8.1 2500 Suburban...and my wife is prettier.😂😘
Bob
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robert cross only knows...........
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10-03-2018, 03:00 AM
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#105
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rangebowdrie
Finally waded thru this whole thread,, what a workout.
No axe to grind,, just thinking about the HP vs Torque thing, and thought about the old F1 cars from ~15 years ago, (I haven't kept up on them lately).
Anyway, a typical 3.0 engine was developing ~800 HP at ~16,000 rpm,, but the torque at that speed is only ~260 ft lbs.
But,, the little F1 car doesn't need much torque, because it weighs almost nothing,, but it takes a lot of HP to go FAST,, the element of TIME is what makes the grasp of torque vs horsepower a stumbling block to many.
Back in the '60s, GMC made a 702in V-12 gasser,, it had a lot of torque,, and used a lot of fuel too.
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Physics still applies...the two variables are different units of measurement. Can’t believe people are still arguing which one is “better”. Haven’t kept up with the thread...been busy pulling my Airstream around and actually camping...
I’ll probably be trading this truck in November (the gas one; keeping my diesel) and am again considering a 6.7, not because of performance or maintenance costs but simply because I like the sound and feel. With my discount I actually pay less for new than for the several used F350s on the lot.
Having driven so many of these I do notice a stronger pull “off the line” with the 6.7 but that alone doesn’t make it the deciding factor. I hope people making a similar choice actually drive them rather than reading this ridiculous thread.
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10-06-2018, 01:57 PM
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#106
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
Physics still applies...the two variables are different units of measurement. Can’t believe people are still arguing which one is “better”. Haven’t kept up with the thread...been busy pulling my Airstream around and actually camping...
I’ll probably be trading this truck in November (the gas one; keeping my diesel) and am again considering a 6.7, not because of performance or maintenance costs but simply because I like the sound and feel. With my discount I actually pay less for new than for the several used F350s on the lot.
Having driven so many of these I do notice a stronger pull “off the line” with the 6.7 but that alone doesn’t make it the deciding factor. I hope people making a similar choice actually drive them rather than reading this ridiculous thread.
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Well it ain’t November but the Ford is gone and there’s a Ram 2500 Cummins in its place. Laramie with all the options. Can’t wait to tow with it!
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2018 International Serenity 27' FB
Michelin 16” tires
Hensley Arrow hitch
Tow Vehicle: 2020 F-350 6.7L Diesel
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10-07-2018, 10:08 AM
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#107
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4 Rivet Member
1972 31' Excella 500
2017 30' Classic
Grapeview
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
Well it ain’t November but the Ford is gone and there’s a Ram 2500 Cummins in its place. Laramie with all the options. Can’t wait to tow with it!
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Do not know which is best, MFG. or fuel used, really do not care. Big Block Ford person for 40 years. First RAM, first Diesel, we are still loving it every time we tow.................
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Scott & Liz
2017 Classic
2016 RAM 3500 6.7
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10-07-2018, 07:31 PM
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#108
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Rivet Master
2016 28' International
Sioux Falls
, SD
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 576
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbowman
Do not know which is best, MFG. or fuel used, really do not care. Big Block Ford person for 40 years. First RAM, first Diesel, we are still loving it every time we tow.................
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The more you tow the more you will love it!
We just took our Ram 2500 and 28’ International over the “Gauntlet” today, first time. Wow is all I can say. Set the cruise and watch it go.
On the other side I NEVER touched the brake, engine did it all.
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2016 Int. Signature 28' w/ ProPride 3P-1400 Hitch
Mich. LTX w/ 16" Sendels, Centramatics
2017 Ram 2500 4x4 Diesel, CG1800 Bed slide, Leer topper
Better to live one day a lion than a lifetime a sheep. Camp hard, camp often
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10-08-2018, 12:34 PM
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#109
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
Well it ain’t November but the Ford is gone and there’s a Ram 2500 Cummins in its place. Laramie with all the options. Can’t wait to tow with it!
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...I never missed my ford after I got my first ram in 07..... my 17 gets better mileage....you will like it...
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10-10-2018, 05:46 AM
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#110
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2 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Oviedo
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 21
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6.2 gas GMC/Chevy, w/ MaxTow?
Look @1500 GMC SLT w/ 6.2 w/ Max Tow pack 7600 GVWR, 11,000+ total.
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10-10-2018, 09:19 AM
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#111
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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... find a dealer who knows what is needed... look for one with a lot of white on the lot, they are most likely more knowledgeable about what may be needed. 👍
Bob
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