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Old 04-08-2018, 07:25 PM   #15
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We are looking to buy an AS 27’ or 30’ Flying Cloud or Classic. What type of tow vehicle should we get? We are considering Ford F-150 or F-250 and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 or 2500. Car dealerships have advised us to get the bigger of the two models. We will be driving all over the U.S. all year long.
All advice and opinions are welcome and appreciated on the tow vehicle and model of AS. Thanks!!!
I just towed my 2018 27’ South from Michigan, about 1200 miles round trip. The F350 and Hensley did a great job. The 27’ is very comfy. We got the Salsa leather.

1. Get the 250 or 350 truck. It got windy on my trip and I was thankful for the mass of the 350.

2. The gas engine is adequate, but you may find yourself wanting more power. Get the diesel. If I was headed west (not likely since I lived out there and kinda had enough of it to last a lifetime, long story) I would get the diesel. They are up to 450 hp now.

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Old 04-08-2018, 07:47 PM   #16
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Tow Vehicle Advice Needed

Recently took delivery of a 30’ FC. When I ordered our unit, I was originally planning on using our existing ‘16 Suburban with the max trailering package. I figured that I could manage the weight and balance and stay within the limits of the Suburban. While I was awaiting delivery over the course of months, I saw the repeated anecdotes of people and their white knuckle experiences. I also saw repeated comments about constantly worry about weight and capacity and balancing the vehicles. There is a lot of incredible advice here too that knows how to set things up and pull with a car that enjoys a lower center of gravity and a much more comfortable ride. Being that I was both a newbie and lacked the experience, I needed excess on my side. So I decided to purchase the Chevrolet 2500 with the Duramax diesel. I recently returned from my first extended trip, 2,500miles with several hundred traversing the Great Smokies. With that trip in the books as they say, I know that I absolutely made the right choice for me. The pulling power, stability of the drive, and ability to stop during the crazy spring break north/south migrations all left me feeling good about my TV decision. It’s important to note that the TV decision doesn’t come cheap. With the money and expense acknowledged, I reiterate that I am very comfortable with both the 3/4 ton decision and the diesel decision. You’ll need to decide which mfg is for you, they all perform the task of TV well.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:10 AM   #17
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If you need an equalizer hitch to keep the rear end from sagging then you need a bigger truck. F250 with tow camper package would be my choice from those you have in mind.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:27 AM   #18
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I'm a newbie myself having picked up my 2018 FC 28RB this past weekend. After much research, I decided to get a 3/4 ton truck and bought Ram 2500. Drove the trailer out of the dealer to the storage place and had absolutely no problem. Very pleased with the two-vehicle/trailer combination! If I were you, I would go with F250 for sure.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:31 AM   #19
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We are looking to buy an AS 27’ or 30’ Flying Cloud or Classic. What type of tow vehicle should we get? We are considering Ford F-150 or F-250 and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 or 2500. Car dealerships have advised us to get the bigger of the two models. We will be driving all over the U.S. all year long.
All advice and opinions are welcome and appreciated on the tow vehicle and model of AS. Thanks!!!
40 plus years of towing and our 2 cents. Sure you "can" tow a 27' or 30' w/a 1/2 ton. Me I would not, no matter as to hitch set up. Its a TV weight VS. RV weight thing. 3/4 ton would be my choice and buy a good sway/transfer hitch set up. There are many out there. Which one is open for great debate. Now as to Gas or Diesel, this also open for great debate on this forum. There are +'s and -'s to both. To reiterate, 40 plus years of towing, 38 w/gas, last 2 years w/Diesel. All I can say is the gas and Diesel are worlds apart in how they work, perform, and how you us them in towing. The Diesel is here to stay for us.

Best regards and safe travels
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:00 PM   #20
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F250 powestroke diesel; bought 6 months ago, wish I’d done it 12 years ago. Amazing experience, tows so easily. Yes it costs more to buy and operate, also holds its value better than gas engine.
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:08 PM   #21
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Pick Your AS Before Your TV

One lesson I've learned the hard way is always pick your Airstream or trailer first, before even looking at tow vehicles.

Once you find the trailer you want, then research the best TV for the job. This will keep you focused on the right decision at the right time.

No one wants to be on the fence about the safety of their TV and having to decide whether or not to drop more cash or gamble with what you have.

Keep your decision in this order and you will be much happier in the long run.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:05 PM   #22
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After deciding on an Airstream Classic 30', based on price, incentives, tow capacity, and reliability we selected the RAM Bighorn 2500 i6.7L Cummins Turbo diesel with crew cab. It gets about 11.4 mpg hauling the trailer back from the dealer in Missouri.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:39 PM   #23
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3/4 ton

I have an F150 Ecoboost with Propride hitch with 28’. But I don’t pull all the time. Still use it for daily driving. If I was going to tow all year I would go with 3/4 ton due to heavier brakes etc and more payload. Diesel or gas would be a toss up.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:52 PM   #24
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Andy should charge a consulting fee for all the advice he's giving out - I've seen so many referrals to him by this forum's members, he must be good and if he is, then he should charge something, time is money.
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:32 PM   #25
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What type of tow vehicle

When I was shopping last year, the best advice I got was from the service manager I've known for years. He started pulling a 33 foot "brand X" with a 1/2 ton, and later switched to the 3/4 size.
Reason: control going down hill. In long downhill mountains, the trailer will want to push the the truck. On curvy roads, this can challenge the control. He related it was "scary" with the smaller truck, and the stronger suspension of the larger truck handles it better.
He also advised me if I stay under 28 feet of trailer, the 1/2 ton will be OK, but more length than that, it's really worth the jump to 3/4. He chose the gas engine for his 3/4, but admits the gas mileage is lousy. He just didn't want to "fool" with the issues of diesel.
I chose a 27 ft Signature which is a 28' chassis. I then chose the top-of-line 1/2 ton with the largest V-8 available. My rationale was getting the most torque possible without going diesel. My truck also came with all of the latest "trailer control" electronics and mechanics available at the time.
For me, the truck and trailer are a good match. I pulled the trailer from Arkansas to Los Angeles, and recently, Arkansas to the Big Bend area of Texas. Each trip averaged 13mpg at 60-65mph. (Diesels may get 15, but the cost difference??)
In case you're wondering, mine is a GMC Sierra Denali 1500. I read that those with the GMC 2500/diesel are quite happy with. that.
IF you can wait, GMC is advertising a "Fresh" upgrade for the Sierras which includes much more technology aimed at control and visibility of trailers. They also claim their truck beds will be made of carbon fiber, which should be lighter, and thus increasing the payload. No numbers are out yet, and I predict it will be "PRICEY!" And, yes, my wife has given me the "green light" to pursue the improvements to the trailer control aspects. (I'm not sure I really need it, but one can certainly ask questions, eh?)
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:59 PM   #26
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Another vote for the 2500 GM ...but who is counting ...
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:34 AM   #27
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You diesel guys keep telling yourself that diesel is the only way. True, they are the torque kings. But they are not the only player when it comes to overall pulling power.

There's very few diesel engines that make over 400hp, and only the very top shelf ones do. While there are many many gas motors that make over 400hp. Practically any 400hp+ gasser will get to the top of the hill before that diesel, because it's also likely carrying waaay less overall weight.

You might like your big rig sounds, big rig ride, and nautical big rig moves. But it's not for everyone. I do agree that for a full timer, carrying the house worth of goods, and open roads, a 3/4 ton might be the way to go.

I'm from the SUV crowd. I don't believe you diesel guys really understand what your missing in terms of ride quality, maneuverability, and turbine smooth pulling power you can find in a modern SUV or 1/2 ton. And that's okay, because that's not your style. Just don't be shocked that there's effective and preferable options for others outside of your diesel bubble.
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:36 AM   #28
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I'm from the SUV crowd. I don't believe you diesel guys really understand what your missing in terms of ride quality, maneuverability, and turbine smooth pulling power you can find in a modern SUV or 1/2 ton. And that's okay, because that's not your style. Just don't be shocked that there's effective and preferable options for others outside of your diesel bubble.

Well - I put 25k miles towing my 25’ and another 3k miles towing my 30’ with a very capable (1,400lb payload, 850lb tongue weight, 8,500lb towing, 400hp, 413ft-lb torque, 121” wheelbase with independent suspension) modern/lux 1/2 ton suv with a precisely calibrated WD hitch setup.

I swore I’d never ever own “a truck”.

In the end for the 30’ though, after very careful consideration I decided to give it a go (move to a bigger TV platform). The 3/4 ton with the L5P diesel does better for our family’s personal needs. My wife does a lot of the driving too and soon after getting the truck she took us and our 2 little ones + the dog up and over the continental divid on I-70 in the absolutely monsoon-esk pouring rain, in heavy traffic that was moving at highway speed, and then down 7-8% grade for 10 miles .....without any stress involved whatsoever - it made me smile as I peacefully worked on my laptop in the passenger seat and the kids watched a movie in the iPad.

Everyone’s needs are different - I certainly don’t bash SUV owners - they are a great fit in many cases, and ours served us well for many years on many adventures across the country.

Both platforms have their pros and cons no doubt.

Life is short, happiness is good - that’s why we own Airstreams
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