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Old 06-16-2019, 10:34 PM   #1
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Tow Mirrors - Needed on a Tundra?

Weíre picking up our new-to-us Flying Cloud 25FBQ next month and weíre trying to sort out things we do/donít need. Right now, my research topic is tow mirrors. Iíve pulled boats and some small cargo trailers before but have never pulled any sort of TT. I have a 2016 Tundra with the standard mirrors which seem to be pretty large, especially compared to the standard options on other brands. I know there are a bunch of tow mirror options ranging from slide/clip on all the way up to new OEM. It seems clear that any sort of tow mirror will provide increased visibility Ė but how much of a difference do they make vs standard Tundra mirrors? Do any of you fellow Tundra owners just use the standard mirrors?

Iím not trying to be cheap, just havenít seen another thread on the subject and am curious about experiences from the group. Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-16-2019, 11:11 PM   #2
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Hi, I used "Cipa" slip on mirrors on my Lincoln Navigator for ten years. They work and are better than nothing. I now tow with an F-150 with factory tow mirrors. I would never use slip-ons on a vehicle in which factory tow mirrors are available.
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:01 AM   #3
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Depending on your state, tow mirrors are actually required legally. I didnít know this and towed for a year with my F150 with standard mirrors and felt fine about it. We have a backup camera, though. I have since replaced my mirrors with aftermarket towing mirrors. The slide on ones are another option though I found my brain didnít process that view as well as I would like.

This thread has much more detail. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...rs-189876.html
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:31 AM   #4
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I use them on our tundra - a big improvement in my opinion. I swapped the standard mirrors for oem tow mirrors.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:11 AM   #5
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Ford does NOT offer tow mirrors on their Expedition series, eve with q tow package, per dealer, Cipa does not offer them.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:23 AM   #6
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. . . just haven’t seen another thread on the subject and am curious about experiences from the group.
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Welcome to the forum! Good link in this earlier post:

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This thread has much more detail. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...rs-189876.html
FYI -- using the desktop version of this site, the new search function in the blue box above works great.

"tow mirrors" -- https://www.google.com/search?q=tow+...com&gws_rd=ssl

Apparently the search function using the App is not so hot.

IMO any increase in driver visibility, especially behind the trailer, is worth the cost/effort. Tow mirrors are further apart laterally than your OEM mirrors . . . a good thing.

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Old 06-17-2019, 04:30 AM   #7
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Get a review camera. Combined with our regular mirrors you will have absolutely no blind spot.
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:09 AM   #8
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Remember that your trailer is the maximum width permitted on U.S. highways by the DOT. I also have one, and it's tough to see what's happening back there. In my opinion, extended mirrors are a must and, as others stated, are required by several/many states.
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:39 AM   #9
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I tow with a Tundra also. When I bought my A/S used, the previous owner gave me a set of Milenco mirrors. They are now called Aero I believe. They have performed very well and I recommend them if you do not want to spend the money on factory tow mirror replacements.

They are required by state law here in Pa.

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Old 06-17-2019, 08:21 AM   #10
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we have a 2016 Tundra pulling a 2005 25 Safari. Both bought gently used. The truck came with the standard mirrors. I could not see anything down the sides of the coach nor anything in the rear so I purchased replacement pull out tow mirrors hoping for a better result.

I still cannot see down the sides as I did pulling our 74 Tradewind, nor can I see behind. I think this is due to the Safari being 8'6" wide. I can see traffic in the side lanes much better. The only way I can see down the sides or to the rear is when I enter a slight bend in the road. I still would recommend the tow mirrors because you can see side traffic much better.

As far as seeing whats behind I installed a rear view camera on the coach wired to the center running light on the back. That means we have to tow with the headlights on which I did before anyway.

You could do a little better If you used an additional mirror such as the McKesh mirrors but then the truck and mirrors would be so wide that may cause other issues.

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:51 AM   #11
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The first day I was so excited I forgot the mirrors and was surprised how well I could still see.
However I bought the Tundra specific mirrors by CIPA. Amazon has them for about $35. They fit well (once you figure out the insert thingy.) They don't vibrate, and they look good.
My only criticism is the passenger side magnifies. That's good for seeing far behind you, but it makes vehicles appear to be closer than they really are. It also makes it very, very difficult to adjust by yourself since a tiny move makes a huge difference.
But, I'd buy them again.
Wow! New $55.....but I just looked at the Amazon Warehouse and they have a set for $18!!! Everything I've bought from Amazon Warehouse has been perfect. I guess it's returns and damaged packaging.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:56 AM   #12
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I am towing a 25FB with my Tundra and am a fan of the factory mirrors. Years ago I towed an SOB with a 4Runner and used an add on mirror, CIPA I believe. I really did not like all the hassle with an add on. I do believe they are better these days but mine wasn't so dependable. I purchased a new Tundra in 2008 and with the tow package the tow mirrors were standard. I now have upgraded (?) to a 2017 and I had to pay extra for the tow mirrors. I would never tow without them or something like them. Granted, they do not give you a straight line of sight down the sides but any mirror that would do that would have to be way out there for the wider Airstreams. With the lower wide optical mirror, I can see the lanes of traffic both left and right. This is a huge thing for me. Changing lanes on the freeway is much more safe for us now.



I would look into the factory tow mirrors. They are heated and adjustable like your current ones are.
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Old 06-17-2019, 09:03 AM   #13
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Just read Mollysdad's post. I had CIPA mirrors but mine were much older and were held on by straps. These look much easier but mine did share something in common with his. Adjusting them was not an easy thing. Each time I put them on I had to dial them in. And, mine would shake loose when traveling down the road. Loose enough to have to restrap them and readjust the mirrors. For $50 they sound like quite the deal. This might be a way to go if you don't want to do factory ones.


He mentioned the "objects look farther" issue with the right hand side. This drove me crazy. Factory mirrors have a large top half with true reflection. The lower half is for blind spot views but these smaller mirrors do have to be adjusted by hand. They don't shake loose though so once a season is just about all it takes.
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Old 06-17-2019, 09:27 AM   #14
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When i first got my trailer I towed the first season with a 2008 4runner ....I used add on mirror that had a suction cup .... they worked ok but one would occasionally come loose (they had a safety strap...LOL). In 2015 I bought a 2010 Tundra Limited at the time I wondered as you are wether I needed extensions.... my tundra had a the tow package but for some reason didn't have the factory extendable mirrors. I mounted the suction extendables on the 4rnnr and opened the windows ...I then measured how wide the mirrors were from side to side . I then opened the windows and measured the Tundra standard side to side and found that the Tundra was actually wider the the 4rnnr with extendables!
I have towed the airstream without extensions ever since with no hassles. I can see traffic etc fine. I dont have any rear cameras. Not sure about the width of your trailer compared to mine ....any extra width would change the issue.
If I changed to another Tundra (which I love) I would get the factory extendables though.
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