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Old 10-29-2003, 04:42 PM   #15
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Automobiles for towing

Yes, that is the company.

I didn't trade in my 03 diesel Excursion tow vehicle.

I agree with your position regarding the litigious nature of our country at this time.

BUT, in the 1950's and 1960's, people DID tow Airstreams with Cadillacs, Lincolns, and other large automobiles, whose suspension systems and drum brakes were far inferior to the 4-wheel disk, antilock systems we have today. And, I suspect, the trailer brake controllers of today are also better than 40 years ago.

It would also seem, that if the weight distributing hitch is correctly adjusted, and assuming 10-15% of the trailer weight is on the tongue, as recommended, then that weight is probably better spread across the tow vehicle than if 4 adults plus luggage were loaded into the car - without a trailer.

I'm not recommending the situation - just pointing out that it seems to work well for some people.
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Old 10-29-2003, 05:19 PM   #16
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If you read the directions for a Reese WDH under front wheel drive vehicles it says not to use with the rear wheels removed! Would some one have been talented enough to try it? Probably

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Old 10-29-2003, 06:45 PM   #17
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linc54,

Personally I think a vintage trailer towed by a matching era car is cool. I have seen some of the setups. I would not want to attempt more that a couple of hundred mile runs with it though, like they did in the 50's and 60's I have members of my unit who did and they were replacing transmissions and blowing hoses with regularity.

Wahoo,

The disclaimer was done due to their own marketing program. They had a picture on the cover of their late 60's brochure with a Toronado, connected to a boat trailer with a WDH. The rear tires on the toro' were off and they drove it around like that!
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I am one of the few who tow with something other than a truck or SUV. There was no problem getting a proper hitch with 10,000 lb rating. The vehicle came with the factory towing package, I enhanced this with the following:

- Bilstein shocks
- Airlift airbags for rear coils
- B & M transmission cooler with cooling fan
- Brembo cross drilled rotors
- Continental Extreme Contact SUV tires with stiff sidewalls and high load rating on 17" Impala SS wheels.
- Cold air intake system and FlowMaster exhaust to coaxe a little more power out of the 260 HP stock LT1.

Bottom line for us: works well as family vehicle and monthly weekend tow for family camping.

Would I drive it to Baja towing the trailer to Bahia de Los Angeles? No. Give me a diesel 4x4 crew cab for that. Would I drive from here to Lake Powell next summer? You bet.

As usual, your mileage may vary.

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Old 10-29-2003, 09:21 PM   #19
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Hey Mike...I'm with you man....the mods you have done work well with the 5.7L LT1! If you want a bit more power and better shifting w/ the torque converter to lock better than stock, talk to Bryan Herter of PCMforless.com he works wonders with the PCM on these cars.

I'm going to upgrade to 3.73s after I pickup the 6 sleeper in December.

The new coach is about 5500 empty and that's only 500#s more than the current rating. After the 3.73s, I think the car could tow 7,000lbs although I only will need it to tow about 6,300lbs or less.

For on road trip and even gravel roads, the B and D bodies (Caprice, Impala, Roadmonster and Fleetwoods) are great tow vehicles.

They however were all rated at 5,000 lbs. Then it's up to the owner to mod it out the right way.

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They however were all rated at 5,000 lbs. Then it's up to the owner to mod it out the right way.

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Y'know, Eric... if you broke down and bought a REAL tow car (like an Excursion, for example), you wouldn't have to 'MOD' your car out the right way...

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Eric,

What is an "SS 6 sleeper"? Feet man, how many feet? I think you may have been scraping by with the Impala on your current trailer, a Bambi right? Seems it's not in your profile anymore.

When finally you decide that you need to break down and get a heftier tow vehicle we will all understand.

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I think I have Eric figured out.

He likes to get greasy.

He should just buy a 20 year old motorhome and he would be set. Airstream and hot rod all in one!

He really only got a bigger trailer so he had an excuse to do more mods on his car.
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I think I have Eric figured out.

He likes to get greasy.

He should just buy a 20 year old motorhome and he would be set. Airstream and hot rod all in one!

He really only got a bigger trailer so he had an excuse to do more mods on his car.
Brett, you're absolutely right... EXCEPT that 20 year old motorhomes don't have dataports that Eric's Palm Pilot can plug in to to analyze the engine. If you could figure out how to make the engine put out ones and zeros through a standard data port, I think Eric would be there!!!!

Eric? We're trashin' you here in absentia!!!

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EXCEPT that 20 year old motorhomes don't have dataports that Eric's Palm Pilot can plug in to to analyze the engine.
That is where the getting greasy comes in. Upgrade the fuel delivery, first generation TBI wil give you ALDL with the nifty check engine light flashing (1's and 0's). Second generation and he can plug his Palm Pilot in and watch in real time.

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you can drive to Bahia de Los Angeles with your rig. I know the road, it would be easy to do if you took your time. If you had a big Diesel, it would take you just as long. The locals down there love big "Tschevies", and Samurais. This reminds me, I gotta plan a baja trip.......
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For what it's worth. Couple months ago I drove from TX to D.C. to pick up my 1967 24' Tradewind. In my 1997 1500 Suburban I got 15.7 mpg without the trailer and 11.5 mpg pulling it back. I used premium gas towing it back since I was getting some pinging going up the hills.
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Hey what can I say, I just love to tinker around....don't think that for a moment that I didn't consider a MH with that fun 454 in the breadbox....looked like some real fun.

As for the CPU, heck, I'm going up north to get my dumb car....my '80 Olds Delta 88 for a winter driver to save the Impala for the many tow miles it will encounter next summer. The Olds has one computer....and it's in the aftermarket radio!

Rog, you know me by now....getting there is half the fun, plus, I know it's done right comparted to some of the cheap butt stuff GM throws in there...and Rog, no need to bring the "F" word around here.... I was thinkin of going the Duramax/Allision next time around, but you know what, Pick already got me going...he posted that diesel forum and it looks to me, even if I upgraded the tow vehicle, I'd tinker with that too!

Safari SS is the Safari Six Sleeper or aka:"SS".

You know, for a long time, I was just a change the oil type guy, but once bitten by a bug, you just have no choice, esp if you love doing it. One of the saddest days will be when the car is just too old and rusted and I have turn in my laptop, palm and send it to the big hot rod in the sky....

Until then, damn the torpedos...full speed ahead!

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Rog, you know me by now....and Rog, no need to bring the "F" word around here.... I was thinkin of going the Duramax/Allision next time around

Safari SS is the Safari Six Sleeper or aka:"SS".

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So, Eric... however do you plan to order the Allison/Duramax combo in a Ford? I don't think that's available from the factory...

And... does the new Safari SS sport the same symbol as the Impala SS?

OK, the cat's out of the bag... now you all know why Eric traded off the Bambi... he's just stuck on having an SS towed by an SS!

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