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Old 04-06-2015, 01:35 PM   #85
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Does GM still paint their interior dash, console and door panels? Had an S10 and after a couple of years where I noticed the black plastic coming through in places and realized all the interior plastics had a color top coat.

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S10 and S15 were a long time ago. Kind of like asking if Toyota' frames still rust and break in half like my 1980 did


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Old 04-06-2015, 05:34 PM   #86
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My Expedition is repaired to the tune of $1500. Sad but I had to deal with it.
Hope the thing runs like my Excursion did now. It was good for 165000 before we sold it.
What were your repairs? Sounds like a lot of it might have been maintenance issues. I expect you have an automatic tranny and if so, you should definitely beef it up with a Transgo Shift Kit. Not much money and way better with metal parts and better shifting. Also another external tranny fluid filter and cooler will make that tranny last a lot longer. The 5.4 is a good solid engine and coupled with a 3.73 rear ratio, it will tow quite nicely.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:41 PM   #87
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Are you a Toyota executive? Can you get me a discount?
I'm with you on the "only Toyotas" thing.
Better late than never, I found out that it's the Lexus ES350 that will be built in Georgetown. They start coming down their own line in October of this year.

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Old 04-15-2015, 01:36 PM   #88
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How many components are shared with the Avalon?


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While there aren't many shared parts, the ES is closer to the Camry than the Avalon. It's closer to the Camry in track, wheelbase, length, etc.
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My 2015 GMC Sierra 6.2 Max Tox that was on order since last September finally arrived yesterday. We took it out for a spin and it looks like a great little pick up. With the 6.2 and the 8 speed it should satisfy the need for a "little more" that I need over my current 2009 Yukon 5.3. I just didnt want to go to a 3/4 ton Diesel to get way more truck than what I beleive I need. I pull the A/S home on Monday with the Yukon and pick up the new truck on Thursday. They need to install Michelin LT 'E' rated tires, running boards and a Rino spray in bed liner. Will get its first pull on May 7th heading to the spring shakedown with the local A/S club.
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Old 04-16-2015, 03:54 PM   #91
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Each vehicle is designed separately. Several models will come down the same line but gets its own parts. A wiring harness for a Venza won't work on a Camry or Avalon. The same holds true for other parts. Even if some fit, like a mirror inside its holder, the color/fit/connections will be different. Controls, electrical and mechanical, will be different, possibly different on whether it's a Camry is 4 or 6 cylinder.

The Lexus will be made on its own line, some parts (let's use seats as an example) are delivered to the plant for that line. The same supplier may provide seats for all of the vehicles made at that plant, maybe only some. Seats will be made to specification for each of the vehicles and delivered so that the first one off the truck will go into the vehicle it was ordered for as it comes down the line. Will an Avalon seat fit a Camry, Avalon or Lexus ES350? Even if it did, the cloth/leather will be of varying grades with the highest going to the Lexus. The same for carpeting, radios and other major components. Things like a gas tank are molded to fit the body design of a vehicle. Taillights, gas doors, wheels, glove box liners, instrument panels are all different in their finished state.

Components like glass, headlights, armrests and so on, are all designed for a specific model. They are ordered that way and will be delivered/made that way. There wouldn't be any sense for Toyota to see if something for one car would fit another. The supplier has to build a product to Toyota's specifications, including the specified price and agreed upon number of defects per batch.

Georgetown is a plant that stamps its own steel. Steel is delivered to the stamping area and will be stamped according to engineering specifications. It then goes to welding for further assembly. Engines are assembled from parts provided by suppliers. The engines will be different bore, stroke, timing etc. according to the engineering specifications. I'm sure the ES350 will have a V6 (at least). The Avalon, Venza and some models of Camry have a V6, but they will perform at different levels based on the engine specifications to fit the gearing of the transmissions built for each model.

So the short answer is no, but I guess it's too late for a short answer. I do know that the (body) shell will be painted in the existing paint department. Colors, number of coats, type of paint etc. will all be according to the specification. The anti-rust "dip" is probably the same for all vehicles made there. Steel, raw plastics, oils/lubes and other consumables start out for all uses but will be made specifically for a vehicle model.

So could you go to the parts department of your local Toyota dealership and ask for a master cylinder for a Lexus? Maybe, but there's not going to be much difference in price. But then, if you bought the Lexus I doubt that you'd want to put Toyota parts on it.
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Frame/chassis/platform?
Engine/transmission/drivetrain?
You can say what you want, but I see parts on my 2014 Avalon that are identical to parts on my 2007 Tundra- cruise control switch, power mirror control, various other push buttons or switches. Even the parts that have a different look for the different models function the same way.
I understand the different wiring- the just reverse a couple of wires in the molex plug according to the model. Gm is bad about that. With patience and trial and error I can get a radio from a Saturn to work in a Chevy.


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I don't know about Lexus, but in my mind a Toyota 3.5L V6 is a Toyota 3.5L V6, regardless if it's in a Sienna, Avalon, or whatever model.
It's as if they don't want us to know or think it-


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My local Toyota dealer is happy to service Lexus automobiles. They know which parts are identical...and Toyota-branded identical parts are less costly.


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I would think oil change specs are the same, too- and the tires are the same- possibly brake rotors, calipers, pads, axles, etc.


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Yup. But he can get any part they may need for other things. The design is similar enough.


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Don't see a Tundra or Avalon on that list, and although I don't see a '99 Pathfinder on there ( hunk of junk/worst car I've ever paid top dollar for), there is a 2005 Pathfinder on there. I am surprised at the Accords and Civics on the list. Totally not surprised at the Imtrepid and Explorers on the list. I can't believe the Cavalier or Escort aren't on that list.
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