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Old 04-03-2015, 11:04 PM   #71
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I'm basically happy with my small fleet of Toyota vehicles. Two Tacoma pickups, a Camry and a Prius.

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Old 04-03-2015, 11:20 PM   #72
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An ignition switch is nothing compared to fords cylinder head problems.

Hi, just how many cylinder heads killed people??????



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Old 04-03-2015, 11:56 PM   #73
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Hi, I think you might have a point there; My wife's 2005 BMW X-3 still has the original battery in it. The battery is located under the floor in back.
Agreed. The trunk-mounted battery in my 2001 Volvo lasted 10 years as well. The car was built in November 2000, and I replaced the battery in November 2010.

While weak batteries often show themselves when the weather turns cold and the engine won't crank, heat seems to be the main killer of batteries. I understand that battery life is generally shorter in the south.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:15 AM   #74
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Good point, but an ignition switch turning a car off is like running out of gas.
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:28 PM   #75
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A lot of aware owners went to the dealer to get new plugs put in before the warranty expired and they said no unless the motor was misfiring.

Was speaking of owners paying a dealership service department $400 to change plugs to prevent breaking the heads.


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Hi, Not the same; Running out of gas will give you at least one more pump of the brakes with power assist, you will also lose your power steering and in some vehicles, steering will be almost impossible. But with no power from the ignition switch, you also lost your air bags. Now you will most likely crash and have little or no protection. No air bags is the difference.
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Hi, the Ford cruise control situation was stupid, in my mind. The switch was weak, the switch leaked, and the switch shorted out. But I ask, for what logical reason, would Ford have power to this switch with everything off?????? Cruise control will only work while driving an going at least around 25 - 30 miles per hour. So again, why did this switch have power when everything was off???? and these caught fire sitting in peoples garages and driveways. I witnessed one burning in a camp ground once. I also saw a few of these towed to the dealer I was working at, burned badly.
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I didn't read every single comment here, so maybe someone already mentioned this. But I think that even the worst car today is as good as the best car was about 20 years ago. Quality in the automotive industry has come a long way. When I first started driving over 25 years ago (OMG, just realized I've been driving for over a quarter of a century, makes me feel so old), anyways, back then I started out driving well used domestic cars. Lots of Fords, some GM's and a Dodge. My parents were big supporters of that, but then I decided to be daring and bought a well used Datsun 210 and then a Datsun pickup. I liked them. Then a beat up Toyota Celica and fairly nice condition first gen Camry. And a Mazda pickup (the one made in Japan, not the Ranger based model). I liked them. For the most part, they were more fuel efficient and reliable than the domestics. I had a 1999 Honda Civic as a company car and it held up really well too. Then a 2000 Ford Focus... which was very problematic.

Back then, most of my own cars were used (for a while I got new company cars). Some of my own cars were well used and I kept for half a year. Some a year or two. My first brand new car was a 1994 Ford Escort. It was great but had no a/c. "Upgraded" to a 1999 Escort with AC and it was not as reliable. Then got a brand new 2006 Toyota Matrix, traded it on a brand new 2010 Toyota Corolla S. Both were excellent. At that time, I liked to have a new, reliable and fuel efficient car, and an older, less fuel efficient truck, van or SUV for when I needed a vehicle like that. I have to say that my last GM, a 2005 Chevy Astro van, which was only 4 or 5 years old and had just come off duty as an unmarked police van, was the most reliable (but most fuel thirsty) GM I ever owned.

Last year I bought a pre-depreciated, almost fully loaded two-year old 2012 Chrysler Town & Country minivan for close to half of what it would have cost brand new. I've driven it a lot, towed my Airstream and on a separate occasion a loaded 6x12 Uhaul trailer across the US and Canada and it's been great. Put almost 40,000 kms (25,000 miles) in the year I've had it, doubling the mileage it had when I got it, and I have to say, it's been absolutely trouble-free and a joy to drive! But... 10 or 15 years ago, I doubt I would have paid for a new, or almost new Chrysler product, or a GM product, maybe a Ford. I would have been more likely to buy a new Toyota, which I did. But like I said, even the worst car today is as good as the best car was 20 years ago. My 2012 Chrysler minivan has exceeded my expectations for reliability, fuel efficiency and more. I hope it keeps up for a few more years! I might just buy another new, or nearly new domestic again!
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Hi, the Ford cruise control situation was stupid, in my mind. The switch was weak, the switch leaked, and the switch shorted out. But I ask, for what logical reason, would Ford have power to this switch with everything off?????? Cruise control will only work while driving an going at least around 25 - 30 miles per hour. So again, why did this switch have power when everything was off???? and these caught fire sitting in peoples garages and driveways. I witnessed one burning in a camp ground once. I also saw a few of these towed to the dealer I was working at, burned badly.
That situation can happen to any manufacturer, the problem is ford didn't pay texas instruments 4 cents apiece to upgrade the printed circuit boards to avoid the fires is what I have read before.
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My Expedition is repaired to the tune of $1500. Sad but I had to deal with it.
Hope the thing runs like my Excursion did now. It was good for 165000 before we sold it.
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Does GM still paint their interior dash, console and door panels? Had an S10 and after a couple of years where I noticed the black plastic coming through in places and realized all the interior plastics had a color top coat.

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On F150 being the #1 selling vehicle- do they count GMC and Chevrolet together or separately? Might not matter either way- they may sell more F150's than GMc's and Chevy's combined-
I have heard that for years, but you cannot tell locally. There are more Chevy's here.
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This issue has always come down to verbiage, marketing (public belief) and legal-eze.

For example, this month Ford can say the F150 is "best selling brand", but can't say they are the "best selling truck".

When they out sell Chev AND GMC they can say they are the "best selling truck".

Cease and desist orders are filed occasionally. Especially when they try and say "best selling truck for XXX years running".

But, effective market is about perception, so even if they have to cease and desist, the public perception is planted.
Ford doesn't claim that the F150 is the best-selling truck or brand in the US. They claim that the "F-Series" is the best-selling truck, which allows them to count everything from F150 to F650 if they need big numbers, or at least F150-F350 if they need to be fair-ish and stick to the light-duty category. The reason the complaints of competitors aren't enforceable is that the language is technically correct, since the Sierra and Silverado are distinct brands even though they're essentially the same under the skin.
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I know Titans and Tundras and Dodges/Rams are bot anywhere close, but I see more Tundras or Rams in/near towns with dealerships. Ford and Chevy have a much larger dealer network.


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