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Old 09-15-2015, 07:00 PM   #29
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We just upgraded from a Toyota Tundra to a Ford F250 Diesel and it is great. We are on a trip now and the truck stays at 1500 RPM and just goes. It doesn't matter if it is flat or hills. This is our first trip with the new truck and we are very happy. You don't even know that the trailer is back there.
Pony... this is our experience with the Denali HD Duramax/Allison as well... the engine stays at about 1500-1600 RPM, except with seriously steep mountain grades. Tow haul mode (without engaging Engine Braking) holds speed with most mountain descents and with the steepest of descents, kicking in the Engine Braking does the trick... hardly ever need to touch the brakes during the long, steep descents with the heavily loaded 30' International behind us. We love the truck and the diesel engine!
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:05 PM   #30
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:26 PM   #31
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How many people can you get comfortably in one of these new pickups?
Our Sierra 2500 is the extended cab version, so two up front and three in the back. HOWEVER: the folks in the back need to be pretty small and have really good posture. Since there's only two of us, the back is all storage with the seats folded up.
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Old 09-15-2015, 07:39 PM   #32
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Pony... this is our experience with the Denali HD Duramax/Allison as well... the engine stays at about 1500-1600 RPM, except with seriously steep mountain grades. Tow haul mode (without engaging Engine Braking) holds speed with most mountain descents and with the steepest of descents, kicking in the Engine Braking does the trick... hardly ever need to touch the brakes during the long, steep descents with the heavily loaded 30' International behind us. We love the truck and the diesel engine!
DHART,

Do you routinely use the Tow Haul Mode whenever you are towing the AS or just when you are in mountainous areas? I'm learning all about the increased amount of technology present in my new Denali as compared to my previous F-250.

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Old 09-15-2015, 08:29 PM   #33
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Diesel. If budget allows you won't regret it. Everyone has make, model, bed size and cab configuration preferences. Towing with a diesel is great. My budget says stay with my 02 F250 4x4 7.3 sc short bed 6 speed manual. I would rather have a good older diesel than newer half ton for towing. Most who have tried it would agree. I will camp and travel with whatever I have...in my case it's a good older truck and a diesel. I feel blessed.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:33 PM   #34
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Diesel. If budget allows you won't regret it. Everyone has make, model, bed size and cab configuration preferences. Towing with a diesel is great. My budget says stay with my 02 F250 4x4 7.3 sc short bed 6 speed manual. I would rather have a good older diesel than newer half ton for towing. Most who have tried it would agree. I will camp and travel with whatever I have...in my case it's a good older truck and a diesel. I feel blessed.

Amen, brother!! As the owner of an original 7.3L PowerStroke (1995) with fewer miles than much newer trucks, I really like the idea of no payment and more money to go towards FUN!!!
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:37 PM   #35
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:41 PM   #36
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Diesel. If budget allows you won't regret it. Everyone has make, model, bed size and cab configuration preferences. Towing with a diesel is great. My budget says stay with my 02 F250 4x4 7.3 sc short bed 6 speed manual. I would rather have a good older diesel than newer half ton for towing. Most who have tried it would agree. I will camp and travel with whatever I have...in my case it's a good older truck and a diesel. I feel blessed.
Yes, I am certainly looking for an older diesel, since I am short on money. I went to Carmax today and they offered me $19,000 cash for my 2009 Dodge ram 1500 with 52,000 miles. I don't see many used diesel trucks locally in that price range. I'll keep looking and try to come up with a little more moola.
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:37 PM   #37
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DHART,

Do you routinely use the Tow Haul Mode whenever you are towing the AS or just when you are in mountainous areas? I'm learning all about the increased amount of technology present in my new Denali as compared to my previous F-250.

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Ron.... I'm still experimenting with Tow Haul mode. I always use it when descending hills and, if additional engine braking is needed, I engage that feature also.

My understanding is that Tow Haul Mode can help keep transmission temps lower. Tow Haul mode keeps the transmission in each gear until higher RPMs are reached, before shifting. This lessens the need for braking when wanting to slow down when driving around town. I haven't been able to tell if using Tow Haul mode decreases mileage due to running at higher RPMs, but my guess is that it may, somewhat.

Such an awesome truck, isn't it! Great dog too!
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Ron.... I'm still experimenting with Tow Haul mode. I always use it when descending hills and, if additional engine braking is needed, I engage that feature also.

My understanding is that Tow Haul Mode can help keep transmission temps lower. Tow Haul mode keeps the transmission in each gear until higher RPMs are reached, before shifting. This lessens the need for braking when wanting to slow down when driving around town. I haven't been able to tell if using Tow Haul mode decreases mileage due to running at higher RPMs, but my guess is that it may, somewhat.

Such an awesome truck, isn't it! Great dog too!
This is my second 2500HD Duramax in a row and hopefully my last for a very long time. First thing I do when towing is put it in tow haul mode and set the engine brake to on. I leave them there as there is no need to turn them off. The engine brake, while towing, will save wear and tear on the brakes under normal deceleration. It is not just for down hill. The only thing I do differently is when pulling long hard grades I put it in manual mode and down shift to put the engine RPM at a minimum of 2500. I don't like how it is allowed to lug under load. Then once on the other side I put it back into auto and set the cruise control. Pulling our 30' I have never had to touch the brakes going down hill unless someone cuts me off. At highway cruise the truck will shift into 6th in tow haul mode so I don't think mileage is really affected much.
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:26 AM   #39
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Any body who has a truck with a tow/haul mode should always have it on when towing. It is designed to hold gears longer, creates more line pressure in the transmission for crisper shifts and less slippage in the clutch packs and will lock the converter more often. In my particular truck (68RFE transmission) it makes the exhaust brake and down hill hold back more aggressive.
If your truck runs a variable geometry turbo it is good to run the exhaust brake as often as possible as it helps to keep turbo exercised (soot buildup).
If you turn off the tow/haul mode while towing it just puts more strain and heat in the transmission. I wouldn't be concerned about a dimes worth of fuel over keeping the transmission happy.
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I loved my 2010 Tundra, but I traded it for a 2013 F250 diesel, and I've been very happy. It may be a small thing to others, but one thing I really like about the F250 is that I can use the cruise control when towing through hills or mountains; the Tundra often couldn't find the right gear, and would constantly upshift and downshift with cruise control, on any road that wasn't flat. Also, the F250 has an automatic exhaust brake, so just before I crest a mountain, I set the cruise to the speed I want to go down the mountain, and the truck will hold that speed all the way down, no matter how steep the grade; it will downshift to the proper gear, and I rarely (if ever) touch the brake on the way down. Loaded, our 30' International is something over four tons, and the truck doesn't know it's back there, on flat ground or the mountains.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:01 AM   #41
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Any body who has a truck with a tow/haul mode should always have it on when towing. It is designed to hold gears longer, creates more line pressure in the transmission for crisper shifts and less slippage in the clutch packs and will lock the converter more often. In my particular truck (68RFE transmission) it makes the exhaust brake and down hill hold back more aggressive.
If your truck runs a variable geometry turbo it is good to run the exhaust brake as often as possible as it helps to keep turbo exercised (soot buildup).
If you turn off the tow/haul mode while towing it just puts more strain and heat in the transmission. I wouldn't be concerned about a dimes worth of fuel over keeping the transmission happy.
crispyboy... thanks for the info. We're beginning a trip into the Colorado rockies to Ouray today... I'll be in Tow Haul the entire trip.

I don't know if my truck has variable geometry turbo or not?
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crispyboy... thanks for the info. We're beginning a trip into the Colorado rockies to Ouray today... I'll be in Tow Haul the entire trip.

I don't know if my truck has variable geometry turbo or not?
On 'Texas' flatland towing, I do NOT run with 'tow' on.. pulling hills, yes... and always have the "exhaust brake" enabled when towing... I have seen the tranny temp rise about 10 degrees when towing without Tow Haul enabled... and with tow Haul, I lose fuel mileage...
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