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boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 12:29 PM

MPG doesn’t tell the whole story.
I’m not talking the make-believe sticker MPG, or even your carefully calculated MPG using the odometer and gas receipts… I’m talking fuel efficiency based on gallon/passenger mile.
My “gas-guzzler”, has 7 passengers. So, lets assume a 1,000 mile journey. At a mere 10MPG, we’re at 14.29 GAL/Passenger.
Let’s look at one of the more “efficient” diesel pickups, I’ve read about here. At a generous 16MPG, and (2) passengers, we’re looking at a whopping 31.25 GAL/Passenger!!
So before you slip on your Birkenstocks, and crack open a wine skin of righteous indignation- check your reasoning!

easyride · 11-10-2010, 01:00 PM

Does that mean I should load up all my neighbors to be more efficient,do dogs count?
Dave

ROBERTSUNRUS · 11-10-2010, 01:05 PM

Hi, we were all taught wrong; The bottom line is Miles Per Dollar.

**DKB_SATX** · 11-10-2010, 01:07 PM

So, you carry 7 passengers everywhere you go, and club cab/supercab/crew cab pickup drivers aren't allowed to carry passengers in the rear seat?

AirsDream · 11-10-2010, 01:09 PM

No, I think the proper measure is "smiles per gallon" and if you're towin' an Airstream, you're gonna' have quite a few.

I get terrific fuel efficienty in my little VW Diesel, but it won't give me the same amount of smiles!

And it's clear that for the highest number of passenger miles per gallon, a large ship wins hands down, and after that a passenger train. I still like towin' the Airstream better!

newroswell · 11-10-2010, 01:14 PM

But doesn't the efficient diesel pickup seat 5, which is 12.5 gal/passenger?

boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by easyride

Does that mean I should load up all my neighbors to be more efficient,do dogs count?
Dave

Dogs count as .5 passenger

ROBERTSUNRUS · 11-10-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AirsDream

And it's clear that for the highest number of passenger miles per gallon, a large ship wins hands down, and after that a passenger train. I still like towin' the Airstream better!

Hi, and even better mileage when that cruise ship has an engine fire, sitting in the Pacific ocean, and waiting for a tug boat.

boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DKB_SATX

So, you carry 7 passengers everywhere you go,

Yup. It's the family transport. OK, occasionaly it's only 6... somebody's got to work to pay for that gas hog.

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Originally Posted by DKB_SATX

and club cab/supercab/crew cab pickup drivers aren't allowed to carry passengers in the rear seat?

Even with 4 passengers in a crew cab pickup @ 15.63 GPP, I've got you beat.

boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newroswell

But doesn't the efficient diesel pickup seat 5, which is 12.5 gal/passenger?

Yes, but awfuly crowded...

boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 01:34 PM

This topic always sparks a lively discussion with my Insight driving buddy.

Assuming our 1000 miles, and typical 35MPG, His little wind-up hybrid shuttling him to and fro checks in at a hefty 28.57 GPP, compared to our 496CI, emissions belching 14.29 GPP.

Soyboy · 11-10-2010, 01:57 PM

Finalcutjoe, you need to take it further, do a bus conversion, load it up and it blows the whole thing out of the water.....ROFLMAO. No matter how you figure it, I love my diesel...... ;-)

Denis4x4 · 11-10-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by finalcutjoe

MPG doesn’t tell the whole story.
I’m not talking the make-believe sticker MPG, or even your carefully calculated MPG using the odometer and gas receipts… I’m talking fuel efficiency based on gallon/passenger mile.
My “gas-guzzler”, has 7 passengers. So, lets assume a 1,000 mile journey. At a mere 10MPG, we’re at 14.29 GAL/Passenger.
Let’s look at one of the more “efficient” diesel pickups, I’ve read about here. At a generous 16MPG, and (2) passengers, we’re looking at a whopping 31.25 GAL/Passenger!!
So before you slip on your Birkenstocks, and crack open a wine skin of righteous indignation- check your reasoning!

I use the same analogy with my pious Prious owning friends. I still believe that the sudden acceleration problem was caused by ill fitting Birkenstocks!

newroswell · 11-10-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by finalcutjoe

Yes, but awfuly crowded...

Yeah, it would be horrible!

boondockdad · 11-10-2010, 03:48 PM

whoa. point taken

Jim & Susan · 11-10-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by newroswell

Yeah, it would be horrible!

Those King Ranch Fords are dang nice trucks. Some day.....

Jim

newroswell · 11-10-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Soyboy

do a bus conversion, load it up and it blows the whole thing out of the water

Your bus can't touch the gal/person mileage of my cruise ship! The food, sleeping & entertainment is way better too!

boondockdad · 11-11-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS

Hi, and even better mileage when that cruise ship has an engine fire, sitting in the Pacific ocean, and waiting for a tug boat.

ANOTHER reason to 'stream!

PJohnson · 11-11-2010, 03:58 PM

Clearly finalcutjoe is the one wearing the Birkenstocks! If we were to use his logic, we would all be loaded into a Grayhound bus pulling a 22' Bambi. If I am not mistaken, this is the logic used by those on the far left that believe we should all be using mass transportation, not driving our own vehicles.