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Old 12-30-2013, 04:16 PM   #113
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FORD Ecoboost tow spec

Suggest if considering an F150 ecoboost V6 for pulling that you read a test edmonds.com did comparing this unit with the new RAM 1500.
Ford is claimed to have upped the tow capacity of their V6 by 800 lbs without changing anything once the RAM V6 was available. Edmonds tested both units with an Airstream rated to <100 lbs of the RAM rating then the Ford to <100 lbs of the new standard. See what they said if considering a V6.

We had almost identical car-like expectations from a truck when not pulling a trailer and for that reason chose the gas.

80% of all mechanical wear occurs in the first 20% of use which eliminated the diesel for us. With the amount of cold weather we experience on the Canadian prairies we likely shouldn't use the truck as a car in the winter based on the above percentages. That and the fact of the premium price for the diesel option and that gas/diesel pricing in Canada is almost identical. If we were to pull the majority of the time perhaps we would done differently.

Our choice was for a 2013 RAM 1500 V8 hemi with 8sp ZF automatic and 3.92 puling gears to haul a 30' International Serenity and it does that job just fine. A smaller trailer and different gears be possible improving the car use fuel economy. Our RAM is as quiet as any luxury car with a luxury ride as a bonus. The now available 3.0 litre diesel has similar torque to the hemi but would have to do the economic feasibility of the option to decide if it made sense.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:21 PM   #114
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Suggest if considering an F150 ecoboost V6 for pulling that you read a test edmonds.com did comparing this unit with the new RAM 1500.

Ford is claimed to have upped the tow capacity of their V6 by 800 lbs without changing anything once the RAM V6 was available. Edmonds tested both units with an Airstream rated to <100 lbs of the RAM rating then the Ford to <100 lbs of the new standard. See what they said if considering a V6.


Your interpretation of the Edmunds article is mistaken, and does not apply to the Ford Ecoboost. While the Ecoboost is in fact mentioned once in passing, the truck Edmunds tested and compared to the V6 Ram was the normally-aspirated V6 base engine, NOT the Ecoboost.


The Ecoboost is comparable to the Hemi both in output and in its position in the range.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:11 AM   #115
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Perhaps a military model HumVee would work. It has a wide stance, power, seats a bunch of folks, and is armor plated to deflect all the negative comments.
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Ram 2013 2500 diesel. Not much bigger than a Ford F-150 or Ram 1500, gets 20+ miles per gallon on freeway, very comfortable.

Throw a nice ARE topper on it with Mega Cab and life is Great!

If your going with a F-150/1500 - I strongly suggest folks check out the Ram 2500HD. In diesel version, very comfortable, great mileage, not much bigger than a 1/2 ton, and better mileage if you need 400+ lbs torque (unless you get a Ram 1500 diesel or 5.7 Hemi)....
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:23 AM   #117
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Perhaps a military model HumVee would work. It has a wide stance, power, seats a bunch of folks, and is armor plated to deflect all the negative comments.
How many does it seat? 6-8?
It will only go 60?
How much does it cost? $100,000?
I guess that's good enough.
Imagine that- a tow vehicle as wide or wider than the trailer!
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:30 AM   #118
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Ram 2013 2500 diesel. Not much bigger than a Ford F-150 or Ram 1500, gets 20+ miles per gallon on freeway, very comfortable.

Throw a nice ARE topper on it with Mega Cab and life is Great!

If your going with a F-150/1500 - I strongly suggest folks check out the Ram 2500HD. In diesel version, very comfortable, great mileage, not much bigger than a 1/2 ton, and better mileage if you need 400+ lbs torque (unless you get a Ram 1500 diesel or 5.7 Hemi)....
JFS ... not sure just how stripped down your Ram diesel is, but no one around here gets 20+ mpg on the freeway unless the emissions package has been stripped off (voiding warranty) of the late model Cummins / Rams and they are traveling under 50 mph. We certainly do NOT get that in our Ram 2500 Cummins.

Don't get me wrong the 2500 is an excellent tow vehicle and with the HD suspension AND brakes is likely much safer and better handling while connected to a TT than many other TV choices ... but great fuel economy is not a forte... creature comfort, however, is a strong point.
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I have gotten 20 mpg with my 07 one ton cummins. Flat ground, tailwind in Florida. 18 is easy to get at no more than 65 mpg. None of this is towing og course. 16 towing a light weight Avion at 65 mph is what I get on the flats, drops to 15 in the mountains. Jim
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I only get 10-12 mpg towing with my Toyota, but I ain't spendin' $60,000 on a truck to improve fuel economy by 2-3 mpg!
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JFS ... not sure just how stripped down your Ram diesel is, but no one around here gets 20+ mpg on the freeway unless the emissions package has been stripped off (voiding warranty) of the late model Cummins / Rams and they are traveling under 50 mph. We certainly do NOT get that in our Ram 2500 Cummins.
You kidding me? Not to be rude but...

2013 Ram diesel Cummins (yes - DEF) 4x4 with ARE cap (200lbs) plus additional 300lbs in bed with two - three adults and some other stuff (peeps and stuff) in Mega Cab configuration - fairly level ground at average sea level - if I keep it around 70-75 mph I get 18-21 mpg (averages to 20 mpg via computer and hand calculations over a few hours and couple hundred miles). If I'm closer to 75 or stop and goes it drops to 19.

Even when I had my 2011 Ford Super Duty 4x4 Crew Cab with Scorpion 5.7 diesel (of course DEF like modern diesels) I would average 17-19 with same type of ARE topper and weight.

Yea - my 2013 Ram Cummins diesel gets better mileage than my 2014 SRT 6.4 Grand Cherokee with 8 speed tranny (1 mpg but it's still better)

Towing with both vehicles with both Airstreams at same speed to beach and back (DC area due East to Atlantic Ocean - so pretty level) was about 11 - 13 mpg with the Ford and 30' Classic while the Ram with 27FB Serenity seems to be 14 - 16 mpg.

So not to hijack this thread, there are some pretty in depth discussions here or we could always start a new one.

So my point, don't know if financially the math works out for everyone, but for I, my truck gets better mileage than my SUV, but I have an A4 for daily driving.
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Again - not to hijack the thread but this is my observed mileage traveling a route (well established traveling between the Atlantic Ocean and my casa that I do with great frequency) with a few different vehicles....

So again I say, if you can swing it go with an Oil Burner 2500 or 250 (or maybe the new 2014 2500 Ram with gas 6.4)...

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I also average 20mpg in our 2013 ram 3500 mega longhorn with truck topper, when an average speed of 75mph on the highway. And that is in the Carolinas, which is not flat. Considering my truck alone is 11k pounds, I am impressed with the new technology getting better gas mileage.
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I also average 20mpg in our 2013 ram 3500 mega longhorn with truck topper, when an average speed of 75mph on the highway. And that is in the Carolinas, which is not flat. Considering my truck alone is 11k pounds, I am impressed with the new technology getting better gas mileage.
Wow, that is a heavy vehicle. Just wondering what the 75 to 0 MPH stopping distances would be like?

Note our TV/trailer combo ready for travel weighs 9K LBS.
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