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Old 12-21-2013, 09:26 PM   #43
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This is probably not what you're looking for, but I've seen a bunkhouse towed by a Chrysler 300 this last fall.

Not at all trying to talk you out of buying a truck if that's what you want, but there are other options as no doubt you know after reading the towing threads.
What I would probably want is something like a sturdy diesel land cruiser type of vehicle that gets good mileage, has lots of room inside, and the capacity to tow a decent sized airstream from here to Alaska and back. And that costs less than $40 grand.

But I've long ago given up expecting the marketplace to provide me with exactly what I want.

Hopefully I've got a long time to mull things over and shop around before needing to pull the trigger on a new vehicle. But if the Sienna dies tomorrow or runs into some major repair cost that I can't justify....like a new tranny, then I'm off to buy something new. Right now the F150 crew cab with the max payload and towing packages seems like a reasonable choice to tow most any airstream with a payload in the 2,000 lb range and a towing capacity in the 11,000 lb range. The 2015 models due out next spring or summer are supposed to shed 700 lbs or so which might increase their capacities even further. But there are a lot of other trucks to look at too, as well as a number of SUVs. The new Grand Cherokee perhaps and maybe the last remaining full size SUVs like the Sequoia and Suburban.

I don't see myself driving a Chrysler 300 or any other sedan for that matter. I need a truck bed or SUV hatch with fold down rear seats to carry the sort of loads I commonly carry, including the dog.
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:00 AM   #44
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FWIW, IMHO, a half-ton crew cab is the best all-around vehicle- maybe it's my southern roots- pickups way outnumber cars here...
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I don't see myself driving a Chrysler 300 or any other sedan for that matter. I need a truck bed or SUV hatch with fold down rear seats to carry the sort of loads I commonly carry, including the dog.

As that car can tow any A/S ever made, not so surprisingly it can also tow any of a vareity of utility trailers in a combination that can outperform nearly every pickup sold (such as a DRW diesel with 7k payload).

Read around here some more. Concerns about child safety on children bicycling to school are on track . . rollover statistics on pickups should have also caught your attention.

See all threads by Andrew_T for what we all used to do. As to TT size my folks bought a 28' Silver Streak when I was in high school. Kept it for more than a quarter century. And we travelled the U.S. pulling that TT with a luxury car. A sedan. The current 300 is a far more capable vehicle.

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Old 12-25-2013, 09:10 PM   #46
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In 30 years of driving pickups and SUV's I have so far managed to keep them upright- I don't foresee rolling over in the near future-
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There is no question a diesel shines pulling a load as far as longevity,power and to a lesser extent fuel mileage . Ten years ago when diesel was cheaper than gas it was a no brainer. I have seen diesel as much as 70 cents a gallon higher last month. For the last twelve years I drove a diesel truck.... now pulling the airstream I drive a gas. For me the decision was correct. A gas power plant makes power at a higher RPM the newer six speed transmissions let you control this somewhat. If I were selecting a truck now the only change would be move from a 3.73 rear axel to a ratio in the 4's. I like to pull at 60 mph and somewhere is the 2200 rpm range. Lower gearing ( higher numerical ) would help achieve this.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:44 PM   #48
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I find it interesting that the Chrysler 300 is mentioned so often. Especially "The current 300 is a far more capable vehicle" statement since choice is a complex set of factors.

Consumer Reports says the six cylinder model is above average reliability but the eight is below. Would I be wrong to assume the 300 promoters are suggesting the 8 cylinder, 5 speed model as a TV, but using the 6 model's rating?

The eight cylinder gets around 18 mpg on average (not towing) and has a 19 gallon fuel tank. My 2500 HD has a 34 gallon tank and gets 13.5 towing so timing fuel stops becomes a consideration factor whenever traveling the wide open spaces. I have a hundred mile buffer between the two.

Maybe I have it wrong but capability also means cargo capacity without adding another trailer to the inventory. That trunk might hold a few grocery bags but hauling a propane tank or two into town so I don' t have to take the trailer too is out of the question. The backseat certainly won't hold my dogs or our 6'8" kid comfortably. Where do you put the load of fire wood, the big Igloo cooler, inflatable kayak, etc., for a short, big party weekend?

Driving to Chaco? That road was easily conquered but I shudder to think about the challenge a luxury car suspension would endure.

Back to 1500 vs 2500!
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I think the Chrysler 300 discussing is mainly driven by the recent Airstream Life article. In there the author goes into great detail to explain how and why with factual backup. Everything has compromise's. The unhitched sedan is great for getting around in a urbanized environment. The 3/4 ton truck, not so good for that, but great for hauling motorcycles. Just depends where you are in life and what you want to do with your free time.


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Old 12-26-2013, 12:32 PM   #50
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Chrysler 300?
Very hard to haul a ATV ,motorcycle and or the gear that most require( or desired ) for cross country Airstream adventures.Cars are great for minimalists or short trips but when I get away from the crowds and boondock I can not do without my truck.Everyone has a different use for there trailer.I do enjoy Elk hunting in the Rocky mountains so I have to have a 2up ATV along so a car is out.The 1/2 ton pickup and their short boxes and light payloads are not a option.When I boon dock I have two Honda gens,gas cans ,water jugs,fishing gear,large coolers and emergency equipment along with up to three passengers and their gear.My 2012 F350 6.7 turbo diesel crewcab 4x4 long 8ft box fits the bill for me.But I understand my idea of Airstream adventures are different than most.Gold prospecting out west or up in Alaska requires more that a car or minivan or light duty truck.Staying a month at the Boundary Waters Canoe Area in MN requires a 4x4 (dirt roads and rain)and plenty of gear and food reserves.You can not go where I go with the before mentioned vehicles and have a enjoyable trip.I also drive my truck as my primary vehicle and see that some people on this forum think that this is a cumbersome choice of vehicle but I do not agree.I always park away from the crowds and enjoy the walk.So for me this is the ultimate tow vehicle as I have tried the light duty vehicles and it did not work for my travels.

But every one has a different idea of a Airstream adventure.........
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The view from my parking spot is breath taking a the BWCA in MN but putting my Airstream up here is not for light duty tow vehicles
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:43 PM   #52
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It would be great to have a 4WD 1 ton crew cab 8' box pickup so I could take my Harley with me, but I ain't got no money.
4 payments left on my 2WD 1/2 ton crew cab 5.5' box pickup- so that's what we'll use- ain't got no money and don't want no debt.
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The view from my parking spot is breath taking a the BWCA in MN but putting my Airstream up here is not for light duty tow vehicles
I've spent a lot of time in the Boundary Waters and back trails of Minnesota. The last thing I would want to venture in with is a long wheelbase truck, unless I was prepared to walk out.
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I've spent a lot of time in the Boundary Waters and back trails of Minnesota. The last thing I would want to venture in with is a long wheelbase truck, unless I was prepared to walk out.
I have been going there doug for 31 years and we own the property in the picture.If you need advice or lessons on how to maneuver up there let me know.LOL
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I have been going there doug for 31 years and we own the property in the picture.If you need advice or lessons on how to maneuver up there let me know.LOL
No lessons needed, been in Minnesota for 68 years.
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As that car can tow any A/S ever made, ...
FYI, Chrysler 300 is rated to tow 1000#. A 31 ft Airstream Classic has a GVWR of 10,000#.
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