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Old 12-21-2013, 02:22 PM   #29
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Surprisingly, some 3/4 ton trucks may not have payload figures much higher than a properly equipped half ton. These trucks are much heavier than a half ton to start. Add in the super crew cab and diesel and much of the added payload is sucked up by the truck itself. If you want a heavy truck and diesel, then consider getting a one ton truck to have it all.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:36 PM   #30
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I love our setup with a 2009 F150. My only change would be to the Ecoboost engine which wasn't available in 2009. Yes, I have made multiple trips across the scales and I am not overloaded in any parameter. With my wife, two children (13&15), plus dog. Our camping style sounds much like what Texasdiver is doing.
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Well I tried to play around with the "build a ford" feature on the Ford F150 web site and wow...what a confusing mess. I tried to build up a F150 Lariat crew cab 4x4 with max payload and max towing. The max payload option never popped up, just the max towing option, but I did get to one screen that showed trailer weight of 11,000 lbs and cargo capacity of 2,000 lbs but then was never able to get back to that screen again.

I did find this towing brochure on the ford web site

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...rv&tt_f150.pdf

which suggests that the max payload package on any truck of any model simply raises the GVWR to 8,200 lbs but I can't work backwards to figure out what the empty truck weighs to determine cargo capacity. on the slide-in camper table it suggests that it would be 1440 lbs for a 4x4 crew cab which isn't all that much.

In any event, generally speaking are the payload capacities of all the major 1/2 ton truck brands roughly equal when ordered with all the maximum payload options? Or does one brand stand out with higher payload capacities than the others?
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I'm away from the house so this is from memory. I think if you select the Ecoboost Supercrew, Lariat, 6.5' bed, 3.73 limited-slip diff you'll get HD Payload, around 2300 lb. I'm not sure if 4x4 changes any of the details except the payload #. You're right, it's confusing on the site.

That's a high payload for the crew-cab half tons.
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I've had a 1996 F250 4x4 Crew Cab diesel since it was new.... love it. Used to carpool w/ another family; every seat taken.... and it's pulled our Airstream a lot of fun places.

However, a short haul vehicle it is not. I avoid driving less than 7 miles or so if I can; It's much happier with the engine and transmission warmed up properly. If you warm it up properly on the weekend - no harm done.... but months of nothing but short trips is not good.

If I were you I'd buy the kids bikes, and ride with them to school... and then to work. Save the truck (and the fuel) for when the weather is poor; the kids and you will be better for the exercise and you can take those bikes with you when you go camping. A diesel truck is a great tow vehicle - but leaves something to be desired as a grocery-getter.

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If I were you I'd buy the kids bikes, and ride with them to school... and then to work. Save the truck (and the fuel) for when the weather is poor; the kids and you will be better for the exercise and you can take those bikes with you when you go camping. A diesel truck is a great tow vehicle - but leaves something to be desired as a grocery-getter.

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Bart, central TX is not northern California. Double-digit runs of consecutive 100+ days are common in August and September (and schools usually start in August here) and highs well into the 90s are the norm from late May to late October. And we have humidity.
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Bart, central TX is not northern California. Double-digit runs of consecutive 100+ days are common in August and September (and schools usually start in August here) and highs well into the 90s are the norm from late May to late October. And we have humidity.
Ok, humidity sucks. I grew up in Modesto, CA riding my bicycle everywhere, 100F or not... but at least it was a dry heat . At least the truck will warm up faster in hot weather, but that humidity will lead to condensation products building up in the oil if the truck doesn't get warmed up regularly.

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Bart, central TX is not northern California. Double-digit runs of consecutive 100+ days are common in August and September (and schools usually start in August here) and highs well into the 90s are the norm from late May to late October. And we have humidity.
And we have all those big HD dually diesel trucks on the road with very few bike paths.

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Welcome to the forums! If you would like some first hand advice and knowledge about trucks, towing and Airstreams, I would like to invite you to come check out our club. We will be having some campouts very close to Waco in the next couple of months. Hope to see you at a campout soon!
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Old 12-21-2013, 06:31 PM   #38
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Well I tried to play around with the "build a ford" feature on the Ford F150 web site and wow...what a confusing mess. I tried to build up a F150 Lariat crew cab 4x4 with max payload and max towing. The max payload option never popped up, just the max towing option, but I did get to one screen that showed trailer weight of 11,000 lbs and cargo capacity of 2,000 lbs but then was never able to get back to that screen again.

I did find this towing brochure on the ford web site

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...rv&tt_f150.pdf

which suggests that the max payload package on any truck of any model simply raises the GVWR to 8,200 lbs but I can't work backwards to figure out what the empty truck weighs to determine cargo capacity. on the slide-in camper table it suggests that it would be 1440 lbs for a 4x4 crew cab which isn't all that much.

In any event, generally speaking are the payload capacities of all major 1/2 ton truck brands roughly equal when ordered with all the maximum payload options? Or does one brand stand out with higher payload capacities than the others?
The Ford website isn't too accurate with payload. The max payload option adds about 500lbs to normal payload. For the Lariat you spec'd the payload would be close to 2,000 lbs.

Regarding the camper slide in number, that same brochure also says that payload number allows for 150 lbs per seatbelt in the truck.
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The fully dressed up Ford looses nearly 500 pounds of payload for the fancy do dads in that package as compared to the base plain Jane model.

With the ever enlarging girths on Americans, the 150 pound passenger weight number sadly applies to the kids and not the adults.

Use the real weights of the passengers because that is what the springs are carrying.
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I've had a 1996 F250 4x4 Crew Cab diesel since it was new.... love it. Used to carpool w/ another family; every seat taken.... and it's pulled our Airstream a lot of fun places.

However, a short haul vehicle it is not. I avoid driving less than 7 miles or so if I can; It's much happier with the engine and transmission warmed up properly. If you warm it up properly on the weekend - no harm done.... but months of nothing but short trips is not good.

If I were you I'd buy the kids bikes, and ride with them to school... and then to work. Save the truck (and the fuel) for when the weather is poor; the kids and you will be better for the exercise and you can take those bikes with you when you go camping. A diesel truck is a great tow vehicle - but leaves something to be desired as a grocery-getter.

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The kid's school is 3/4 mile away as the crow flies and I would LOVE to put them on bikes and send them to school like I used to do as a kid in Oregon in the 70s. However they would have to cross a 6-lane highway across a busy 6-lane overpass bridge that only has a very narrow sidewalk and no crosswalks or push button walk signals with all kinds of merge and turning lanes on each side. I do it on my road bike when I go out sometimes on rides but I just aggressively take the lane and ride with the traffic to get through that mess. The kids would be road kill, especially in the a.m. when it is still darkish and cars are zipping around with fogged up windows with people on phones and putting on makeup.

Unfortunately with the suburban mess that is this part of Central Texas (most of suburban Texas for that matter) I have to drive them about to soccer and swim practices for them to get exercise. We do weekend family rides but I usually put the bikes on the van and haul them out to country roads or bike paths.

Once my oldest daughter starts driving herself to school I plan to go back to bike commuting but then I do it hard core with my bike all lit up and with reflective clothing and my commute is in another safer direction. I can't really ride with my kids anyway in the morning because I start 1/2 hour before they do and they would end up sitting in front of the school in the dark waiting for the doors to open.
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And we have all those big HD dually diesel trucks on the road with very few bike paths.

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Welcome to the forums! If you would like some first hand advice and knowledge about trucks, towing and Airstreams, I would like to invite you to come check out our club. We will be having some campouts very close to Waco in the next couple of months. Hope to see you at a campout soon!
Thanks for the invite. Looks like a fun club. We've been exploring the campgrounds within easy reach of Waco over the past years with our popup. Some of the nicest are actually the Corps of Engineers campgrounds right next door on Lake Waco which is only 15 minutes away but we do it anyway sometimes. Airport Park is an especially nice campground for Texas.

Last time I had the camper out was August when we did a week at Henderson Beach Park in Destin FL. Fall hits and camping weather finally descends on Texas but then we have 2 girls playing competitive soccer nearly every single weekend all through the fall so I spend my time driving up to Plano or Arlington for soccer matches instead of camping.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:54 PM   #42
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This is probably not what you're looking for, but I've seen a bunkhouse towed by a Chrysler 300 this last fall.

Not at all trying to talk you out of buying a truck if that's what you want, but there are other options as no doubt you know after reading the towing threads.
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