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Old 01-06-2014, 08:00 AM   #127
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I am still partial to a diesel for my next vehicle. Up here in Canada the economics make more sense than in the US, I believe.

I also like the way a diesel delivers power, all the way from the lower rpms. Personally, I would not consider buying a vehicle that delivers less than 25mpg (not towing) on the highway. As our tow vehicle is also our daily driver, a diesel would make sense for us.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:18 AM   #128
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I am still partial to a diesel for my next vehicle. Up here in Canada the economics make more sense than in the US, I believe.

I also like the way a diesel delivers power, all the way from the lower rpms. Personally, I would not consider buying a vehicle that delivers less than 25mpg (not towing) on the highway. As our tow vehicle is also our daily driver, a diesel would make sense for us.
Good luck with that. When you find a vehicle, Diesel or otherwise, that will comfortably tow a 34' AND get 25 MPG I sure would like to know about it.

Certainly not trying to start another tow vehicle argument, but I suppose I left myself open when I used the word "comfortably", as I'm sure you may have a different definition.
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Good luck with that. When you find a vehicle, Diesel or otherwise, that will comfortably tow a 34' AND get 25 MPG I sure would like to know about it.
My Odyssey delivers 25mpg when not towing and tows my 34' International extremely comfortably, with power to spare.
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My Odyssey delivers 25mpg when not towing and tows my 34' International extremely comfortably, with power to spare.
Your 34' has a "base weight" of 6250 pounds, is a narrow body trailer, where mine is closer to 10,000 pounds is 8 1/2 foot wide, and has a tongue weight of 1150 pounds. Lot of difference.
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Good luck with that. When you find a vehicle, Diesel or otherwise, that will comfortably tow a 34' AND get 25 MPG I sure would like to know about it.

Certainly not trying to start another tow vehicle argument, but I suppose I left myself open when I used the word "comfortably", as I'm sure you may have a different definition.
GL350BTC comes to mind....we tow a 2011 28 ft International Serenity and average 27 mpg unladen (hand calculated). Granted, I wouldn't want to drive mountains constantly (plenty of power but an exhaust brake on a 2500/3500 is the only way to go then IMHO). Pricey on the front end but my gosh they have three rows and are comfy.
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Been a long time since I posted anything on this forum, I see that not much has changed regarding the "small vehicle vs. large vehicle" discussion.
While I still tow with the old suburban, I still have a soft spot for a real heavy-duty vehicle that will go anywhere, tow anything, easy to work-on and be usefull for back country hunting/exploring trips, with/without a trailer, and carry enough payload to never worry about.
I think I have found it, and it's only about a foot longer than a crew-cab long bed pick-up. The mileage isn't so great, but you can't have everything,,and they are rather inexpensive for what you get.

Posting this, at least partly in jest, but still with a kernal of truth.
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Been a long time since I posted anything on this forum, I see that not much has changed regarding the "small vehicle vs. large vehicle" discussion.
While I still tow with the old suburban, I still have a soft spot for a real heavy-duty vehicle that will go anywhere, tow anything, easy to work-on and be usefull for back country hunting/exploring trips, with/without a trailer, and carry enough payload to never worry about.
I think I have found it, and it's only about a foot longer than a crew-cab long bed pick-up. The mileage isn't so great, but you can't have everything,,and they are rather inexpensive for what you get.

Posting this, at least partly in jest, but still with a kernal of truth.
Nice truck! Also, it can burn gasoline, kerosene, cooking oil, diesel, jet fuel.
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Been a long time since I posted anything on this forum, I see that not much has changed regarding the "small vehicle vs. large vehicle" discussion.
While I still tow with the old suburban, I still have a soft spot for a real heavy-duty vehicle that will go anywhere, tow anything, easy to work-on and be usefull for back country hunting/exploring trips, with/without a trailer, and carry enough payload to never worry about.
I think I have found it, and it's only about a foot longer than a crew-cab long bed pick-up. The mileage isn't so great, but you can't have everything,,and they are rather inexpensive for what you get.

Posting this, at least partly in jest, but still with a kernal of truth.
Perhaps surprising for somebody like myself who's firmly in the "smaller is better" camp, I very nearly bought the equivalent once, from the British Army.

In the UK, ex military vehicles get sold at auction, then they get sold on by dealers who specialize in that sort of thing. More often than not, their lots consist of a field full of trucks. Buy at your own risk, but as most military vehicles are ridiculously over-maintained (gotta give the squaddies something to do) there are real bargains to be had.

I was looking for a Land Rover ambulance at the time, to convert into a camper, but I did get sidetracked by the large trucks. The main reason I didn't go through with it at the time were fuel costs. I think they got about 5mpg.
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That high 5 mpg rating was usually achieved by driving over a cliff with a strong tailwind
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