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04-12-2009, 05:42 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Gene,
It's not the size of the wheel, it's how tall the assembly is. When changing tires it's a good idea to check tire height and re-program if needed.
It's much more likely that the ride concern discussed here is caused by the tires, rather than the auto-ride shocks.
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04-17-2009, 01:13 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I did call Michelin as Howie suggested and I'm not sure the Michelin Man really knew what I meant.
I told him I ordered LTX A/T 2 Load Range E 275/65/18 tires. I explained I had a 1/2 ton '07 Tundra that would be maxed out at about 7,000 lbs. (actually 6,900, but I wanted to keep it simple). I said the manufacturer recommended 30 front and 33 rear with Load Range C tires. I told him the trailer weighed fully loaded about 7,000 lbs. (actually 7,300).
My questions were what pressure towing and not towing? He looked at the charts and did some calculating (I could hear him punching the calculator) and came up with 50 front and 55 rear. I found out he was talking about a 10,000 lb. truck and then he admitted he was guessing. I explained again it was 7,000 lbs and he re-guessed at 45 lbs. front and 50 lbs. rear.
This was not reassuring. I thought of calling Toyota but the people there can only read off a FAQ list and know little about anything otherwise.
This is a common problem when I ask "experts" and I seem to know more than they do. I have had to explain things to my doctor which has made me think I should go to medical school myself except I'd never make it through organic chemistry.
I am going to get the tires mounted today and will be curious what the guys in the tire shop say. Maybe I'll settle on a pressure that makes the truck level, but I'm not sure what level is. Maybe it's the top of the bed. But level is many different pressures including flat tires….
Gene
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04-17-2009, 01:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
I did call Michelin as Howie suggested and I'm not sure the Michelin Man really knew what I meant.
My questions were what pressure towing and not towing? He looked at the charts and did some calculating (I could hear him punching the calculator) and came up with 50 front and 55 rear. I found out he was talking about a 10,000 lb. truck and then he admitted he was guessing. I explained again it was 7,000 lbs and he re-guessed at 45 lbs. front and 50 lbs. rear.
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Sorry to see you took the step and got a moron. He did not need a calculater to read a chart. Before you call back go to the Cat scale and have your truck and trailer weighed. You are interested in the load on each axle, the divide by two, and that is the only way they can answer your question. If you call back and get a female you have the right person. In the many times I have talked to Michelin over the years she has the best knowledge of all and I have a higher than average chauvinistic coefficient.
If your trailer is riding level you can weigh the trailer and divide by the number of tires and be close enough to get the tire load. Level is far more important with an Airstream than other types of trailer because of the type of axle used.
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04-17-2009, 05:23 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I had the tires mounted and they recommended 60 lbs. Drove the 35 miles home and the truck rode very smoothly, much better than with the Goodyears.
All the scales in this county have closed for good and on my way east in a week I don't have a clue where there are scales. I have to go to Grand Junction on Monday and maybe I can find a scale there. I can put the truck in the garage and that's the only place around here that is level.
To check the truck and trailer together, I have to wait until I'm at a campground with a level, wrenches and good luck.
Gene
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04-17-2009, 05:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Any truck stop on the interstate will most likely have a Cat Scale. Remember you have to weigh while hooked up, not just the truck.
I know 60 lbs is overinflated because I only carry 55 in my Sub while towing a 34.
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04-17-2009, 07:07 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
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What?
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04-17-2009, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Robert
What is your question?
If it is what is the picture of it was written by the same lawyer that is writing GMs bankruptcy plan. I hope his math is better in the plan.
8600 GVWR with 4180 on the front axle and 5500 on the rear. You do the math. Definition found here GVWR - Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - Definition of GVWR
Even if loaded to the max the front would be 50 lbs. and the rear just over 60 lbs.
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04-17-2009, 07:35 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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if it is what is the picture of it was written????
confused......do it your way.
Sweet Streams
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