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Old 11-04-2015, 12:13 PM   #15
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Neither my 2004 nor 2005 had a factory installed trailer brake.

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Old 11-04-2015, 12:39 PM   #16
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I currently tow with an '07 Yukon XL Denali. The Denali and Cadillac ESV versions of the Suburban (yes, all are really Suburbans) are the only versions that get the 6.2 liter engine, with 400+ torque and 400+ HP, plus the 6 speed transmission. The sheet spec on some years rated the Cadi superior, but that was just a marketing ploy as both vehicles have the exact same power train, the specs were just posted for different RPM values. Read leveling is also included.

For '15, an 8 speed transmission replaced the 6 speed and the 6.2 got direct injection.

I am very happy with the towing performance of this truck.
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Old 11-04-2015, 01:57 PM   #17
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But aren't the 16s half tons?
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:25 PM   #18
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Let me see if I have this straight. You have what many consider to be the ideal tow vehicle. You already own it. You've towed 25000 miles with it. AND "so this has ended up being just an expensive tow vehicle that we are depreciating rapidly" - you're worried about depreciation? It's gonna depreciate with the passage of time whether you tow with it or not.

Sounds like you're really looking for an excuse to spend money needlessly and buy another vehicle.

Just sayin' .....
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:25 PM   #19
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Many times the vehicle you own is cheaper to own in the long run. Sub's are the least depreciating vehicle according to the experts. Keep it, drive it, enjoy it...
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:34 PM   #20
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The last 3/4 ton (2500) Suburban was in 2014. It was dropped for 2015. I have read that it has been reintroduced, but is currently only available to law enforcement agencies.

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Old 11-04-2015, 03:57 PM   #21
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Excursion is a good alternate IF you find a nice early one with 7.3 diesel. Other option V10 Excursion. The 7.3 would be my choice but hard to find for sale because they were so good. I have an 02 F250 6 speed manual with the 7.3. Wonderful! If the specs on your Suburban are right it will be a dandy too.
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Old 11-04-2015, 06:21 PM   #22
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Our current and other most recent Suburbans ('04 and '05) are Quadrasteer (four wheel steering). It's a really neat feature that can do amazing maneuvers with an Airstream. Unfortunately, these Suburbans are rare and very hard to find.

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Old 11-04-2015, 08:59 PM   #23
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We towed with our 2000 Suburban 2500 for years and it was a great tow vehicle, except fir the mpg. When we went to replace it in 2013, we decided we wanted the more torquey 6.2 liter only available in Denali and Escalade. But the 2500 was designed for towing with beefed up oil and transmission coolers, trans temp gauge and 39 gal tank (needed for its poor mileage.) We actually felt that the leaf spring suspension was overkill for our AS when coupled with our Equalizr WD, so that wasn't an issue when considering the Denali. (oh, and my but that rig handled well for those never expected but unavoidable evasion maneuvers--the 13,000 lb rig handled like a long sports car!) We did not ultimately go with the Denali because they reduced the size of the rear storage AND no longer had fold flat seats. As windsurfers, we carry A LOT of long but extremely lightweight gear, and the larger Suburban was a squeeze--the inch of height lost in the rear opening and the length loss with the fold forward seats killed it for us (removing boards from racks on top of the vehicle whilst in high winds is not for chickens, so we like the gear inside where it's also less tempting to "borrow.")

So after much soul searching, and the higher ticket price of the Denali, the best solution for us was a Sprinter 3500 (shortest wheelbase and lowest roofline, special ordered from factory.) With the bigger diff (4.1 vs Suburban's 3.73), the torque to pavement was actually slightly superior in the Mercedes' small (6 cyl, 3.0 liter) diesel, but we definitely suffer in hp. But we're older now, so we drive slower anyway!)

With 35k on the Sprinter and no trouble (so far), it's been a great choice for us--my wife thinks the handling while towing is actually better than with the excellent Suburban--and we have tons of room for our gear. And totally custom fitting it out with interior aluminum racks, upgraded foam and leather seating, custom two part console with interior cooler and power for up to seven USB devices, six factory, full "SUV-look" factory Windows, fantastic vent with remote to let our wet gear dry out, too end sound/nav system, airbags all around, upgraded headlamps, heated seats, custom aluminum racks fir our boards/sails/masts/booms/fins towels, wetsuits and tools, full interior side and headliners, interior lights--you get the idea--it still weighs less than the Denali, gets 14.5 towing (under 65--11mpg at 75) and 19 not towing. And fully customized, cost about the same as the Denali.

But for you, I would stay with the one you have and just replace it when you decide it has too many miles. Why insure and maintain two vehicles (unless you need one to be a dedicated tow vehicle for some reason)--especially if they're the same size? Save the cost of the used one to help with the depreciation if your new one psychologically --put rose $$ in the bank and pull em out down the road when you want to buy that new Denali or Suburban down the line.

And have fun!
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:22 AM   #24
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We have a 2003 2500 Suburban with Quadrasteer. We love the vehicle except when it comes to the mountain roads. The 6 liter does poorly climbing mountains. Gas mileage is 10 mpg pulling or not.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:30 PM   #25
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Love our Suburban cousin

We pull our 2005 31' Classic with the same-equipment-but-different-nameplate cousin to the Suburban, a 2004 GMC Yukon XL with 8.1L engine, 4.10 axle and 4WD. Despite dismal gas mileage, it has proven to be the ideal TV.
The huge engine means it seldom shifts out of high gear even up steep mountain roads; in fact, we sometimes have to shift down manually to keep the engine speed up so it won't overheat.
The 4WD means backing into a space, or, in our case, over the curb into our RV space at home, is child's play in 4WD Low, as long as you unload the transaxle after any sharp turn on pavement.
When we bought it, we considered the 6.0L engine with more horsepower, but did some research and realized horsepower is for speed, torque is for pull, so we went for bigger engine/slightly less hp and HUGE (600 ft-lb) torque.
Also opted for all the bells and whistles inside (2 kids in the captain's chairs in back, 2 St Bernards on the 3rd seat) and load levelling.
She now has about 125K on her and we plan to run her 'til the wheels fall off, somewhere around a million at this rate!
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:53 PM   #26
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1999 2500 Suburban 454 engine but it is a liter engine. trailer towing package. 168,000 miles.. I think, it's parked outside, we don't use it when not traveling. MPG about 10 pulling, 10 not pulling.

Cloth interior. Just this summer rust started picking up on rear quarter panels behind rear wheels.

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Old 11-07-2015, 08:33 PM   #27
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Suburban for Towing

Can't imagine a better TV than the Suburban 2500 set up for towing. This '96 was bought solely for towing. It has been towing the '98 34' Excella since new, currently has about 95K miles. The combination's sole shortcoming has been fuel consumption, rounding to about 10 mpg or slightly less. I didn't buy this combo new but bought it from the widow of he who did. Regular servicing pays off.

Not sure what your situation is but this 7.4 L pulls anywhere without complaint. Cruise works fine, except for undulating terrain. Anyhow, we're sorry to have to sell it. No longer needed since the Excella has gone to my son and he doesn't need the Suburban. Too bad you aren't closer to AZ, might work for you.
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