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Old 08-30-2013, 11:09 AM   #29
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:32 PM   #30
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I'm disappointed but I can't say I'm all that surprised. When we were looking for a new vehicle for towing duty we were really not in the market for a pick-up. We have (almost) three kids and two dogs and the interior space was really what we wanted. That said, the 1/2 ton SUVs don't have the payload capacity to handle the tongue weight of our 25' Eddie Bauer and have anything left over for stuff. In 2012 when we got out Suburban is was the ONLY 3/4 ton SUV on the (new) market.

I also take issue with GM's statement that the Duramax/Alison combination wouldn't fit in the Suburban. As evidence I point the DuraBurb folks in Florida. My question, if some indy shop can get the drivetrain into the vehicle, why couldn't GM?
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:17 PM   #31
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I guess when my 2500 with the 8.1 wears out I'll be looking at a crew cab Dodge.
Hay Going camping where you been?
Well Ford did away with the Excursion so I will be driving mine 2000 V-10 till I can go not a mile more.Only have 80,000 miles on it now.
GUESS YOU GM FOLFS WILL HAVE TO COWBOY UP AND GO SIT IN A PICK UP TRUCK.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:30 PM   #32
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I understand that the next generation Suburban's/Yukon's will be shown on monday Sept 9 2013. I have seen them and they are beautiful! As someone posted earlier, too soon to tell if the 3/4 ton will not be made. I asked that question when I saw them and the GM rep said that decsion had not been made as of late 2011.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:27 AM   #33
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It's the Allison that won't fit. I suppose now that there is a detuned Duramax and hydramatic for the Express, that package might fit.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:51 PM   #34
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It's the Allison that won't fit.
I've heard that from several sources - some directly associated with GM and some are simply GM shadetree mechanics and the like. But, how does DuraBurb do it? It's my understanding they change the engine and transmission from a truck and put it into a Suburban. Maybe DuraBurb makes new transmission mounts or some other modifications. I think I noticed in the DuraBurb videos that a front clip from a truck is incorporated to the Suburban. Making that change provides all the necessary fender and radiator attachment points.

The Duramax/Allison combination for a Suburban just seems like such a no-brainer. I know, I know.... bean counters and such enter into the picture. In a former life I worked in product development so I understand the bean counters can kill good projects. Alas! What's a 2500 guy to do?

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Old 09-05-2013, 12:48 PM   #35
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It's the Allison that won't fit. I suppose now that there is a detuned Duramax and hydramatic for the Express, that package might fit.
These guys make it pretty clear that they've managed to get the Duramax-Alison combination into the Suburban. Here's the link to their youtube channel: DuraBurbinc - YouTube

They tell me that the cost of the conversion is about $26,000 with most of the cost going to the donor vehicle. The actual installation cost is 'only' about $6000.

I'd totally do it if I didn't think my wife would kill me. Also, there's the nagging thought in the back of my mind that my local Chevy stealer might not want to work on it regardless of what they say. I'll probably use mine for a few more years and see if GM puts out a diesel Suburban then rethink this... maybe, who knows.
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I have heard a couple of people report needing a 3" body lift to get the Duramax-Alison combination into the Suburban.

Personally I would love a 3/4 ton Suburban with a 4.5L diesel.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:29 PM   #37
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I have heard a couple of people report needing a 3" body lift to get the Duramax-Alison combination into the Suburban. Personally I would love a 3/4 ton Suburban with a 4.5L diesel.
I, too, was/am quite intrigued by the baby Dmax. I'm hoping that Dodge putting that 3 liter V6 diesel and Ford's 3.5 ecoboost will force GM to evolve some.
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2014 suburban half ton <---- Chevy website, old news

2015 Tahoe/Suburban announcement hype (coming Sept 12 2013)

I'm watching too - visited a dealer w/ hail storm damaged inventory but was too chicken to go talk to their business manager
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2014 suburban half ton <---- Chevy website, old news

2015 Tahoe/Suburban announcement hype (coming Sept 12 2013)

I'm watching too - visited a dealer w/ hail storm damaged inventory but was too chicken to go talk to their business manager
I don't know that their business manager would know abut the status of the 2500 series. However, the sales manager might or might not. GM may not announce their intentions even to the dealer network until closer to the time for introduction of this series. If you have product in dealer inventory that needs to be sold (i.e. some 2012/2013 2500 models) and the time for introduction is not close at hand, it's better for the OEM to stay mum about what lies ahead.

I'm also interested to see if the half-ton (Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon/Yukon XL) will feature independent rear suspension (IRS) or if they will stick with coil springs as with the GMT 800/900 vehicles.

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As in find 30%-plus-off sticker price from lot inventory chicken.... you know, drive one home tonight chicken...
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I am looking to get a 2500.i have a 2008 1500 with 106,000 miles. I pull a bambi, which is not an issue. The need is for what I pack in the suburban for my job. Second and third row seats come out and two tulles go on top. I think the 2500 will have better suspension, my 2008 has some value and it could work for me. I think however, a deal will not be possible since there is no real need to sell them down. Any thoughts whAt I should be paying for one.
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