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Old 09-08-2010, 10:25 AM   #1
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We have the Tundra for longer treks, but I'm thinking of getting a Subaru Outback, rated for 3000# towing with the flat 6 for very short (10-15 mile) treks down our local rural roads, 45mph max towing. The Tundra is a work truck and is in use a lot, and it is just gross anyway. The trailer is approx 2800# dry, and we don't carry a lot of stuff in it... The Soob seems like a good alternative, something that for the bulk of daily driving gets decent milage and isn't bad in the city. Thanks
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:47 AM   #2
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When you say "flat 6" I'm assuming you're looking at one of the 3.6R models of the Outback? If so, that's the 5EAT automatic which is a decent transmission, but I don't think I'd push it close to its rated tow capacity. For low-speed, relaxed acceleration, etc. it might be OK for a few years but I would expect it to really shorten the life of the transmission.

The CVT is even more likely to have its life shortened by heavy towing, but since you quoted 3000 lb I'm still convinced you're looking at a 5EAT. I think Subaru had jetskis in mind when they talk about towing with an Outback. My Legacy is the 2.5 Turbo with a 5-speed manual... it's rated for 3000 lb as well, I think, but I don't think I'd tow anything with it.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:58 AM   #3
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Thumbs down Not to rain on your parade, but it doesn't sound like a good idea to me ~

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The trailer is approx 2800# dry, and we don't carry a lot of stuff in it...
Have you had it weighed? Our '64 GT weighs more like 3400 lbs...the brochure "dry weight" (2890 lbs) is with nothing, no options, no propane tanks, no water in the W/H or tanks, no awnings, no food, no dishes, pots or pans, silverware, linens or any of the "normal" things you have in your trailer - not just "no water". I would load up your trailer how you would intend to take it out with the Subaru, hook it up to the Tundra and take it down to the scales. I think you will find your weight to be over 3000 lbs. Also, you need to consider the tongue weight & rating and the wheel base.

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The transmission just wont take the abuse. I have owned 4 different subarus and love them. The transmissions are just not over built to take towing so close to and likely over their weight limit. I know several people who have burned up the trans of their subaru towing. I wouldn't do it. You mileage may very. Sorry its a great car but I would never tow anything but a popup with one.
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Just had a friend burn up the tranny on an '08 Tribeca while towing a 2800 lb trailer back from Burning Man. The rating was 2000 lb without the tranny cooler and 3500 with. She had one, so she thought that she was OK.

I counseled her that I would NOT DO IT and that she was asking for problems and guess what.......SHE GOT THEM!!!!

Personally, I wouldn't tow a leaf wagon with a Subaru, and I've owned 3. Love the cars, but tow with something else.
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Hi guys,

I saw your setup last time we gathered at Casini. I would just use the Tundra for your towing needs and save the Subaru from the abuse it will suffer. The Tundra might seem overkill for Globie but I like overkill... I use a dually crewcab lol...
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I have had two Subarus and have towed with both. I was impressed with the power and could easily tow over a ton of boat down the freeway at 70 to 80 MPH. I also almost ripped the hitch off the vehicle because they are unibody .... as in there is no frame to mount the hitch to. A hitch welded to tin foil is not going to work for any amount of weight or rough roads. Will that one bump while towing at maximum weight separate the hitch from the car? The safety chains and breakaway switch will be of no use if they are attached to the hitch which will be heading somewhere else with the trailer.
My advice .............. don't try it. You have a vehicle that will do the job already.
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Thanks guys, for now it'll be the Tundra. I'm thinking of a Pilot, but I just don't want to drive a beast as a daily driver- I drive a Honda Fit and love the 38mpg I get on our rural highways. I was curious about the Soobs and very interested to hear about the weak link being the transmission. I will get the Globie weighed, I have to drag it to San Leandro for some work soon. Now to finish the toilet replacement! One thing, on a number of posts, people talk about towing at 70-80 mph. That doesn't seem particularly smart, given reaction times at that speed, but its not legal in CA I believe, either.
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One thing, on a number of posts, people talk about towing at 70-80 mph. That doesn't seem particularly smart, given reaction times at that speed, but its not legal in CA I believe, either.
Legal or not, it's not smart anywhere!

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Legal speed limit for trailers is 55 mph in California. You probably won't get stopped for 60, unless you're doing something else, too. I'd keep my eyes open if you plan on going faster. Personally, 55-60 is plenty fast enough for me having already had my Marathon blowout.
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Legal or not, it's not smart anywhere!

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Just let me know when you guys are towing at 70 or 80 so I can stay away....thanks, p
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