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Old 04-09-2014, 10:33 PM   #533
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I'm curious about two things on the above Sienna setup. "weight distribution chains have loosened up" ??? This is the first time I have seen such a reference. Care to elaborate as to why or how this happens ?

And the other thing, is to my eye ( maybe it's just the angle from which the pictures were taken ) it looks like the ends of the spring bars are very close to the ground. Are they dragging on driveway entrances and such ?
I've no idea how it happens. It's just what I was told. After about 50 miles they would need to be tightened. Then again after about 100 miles. Then they should be good thereafter.

Must just be the angle because they have never touched the ground. As I mentioned in my first post though, the chains do need to be tightened so the back end of the Sienna is riding lower than it had been previously. It's a situation that I was expecting and is easily corrected.
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Thanks for the followup, BMG. Glad it's working well for you.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:21 AM   #535
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Got everything pretty much finalized today.

I had moved the "saddles" forward so the chains are closer to vertical now, on the advice of another CampLite owner. This pushed the Husky ball mount pretty far forward, so I had a friend trim it down with a torch to mount closer to the "saddle".

Even with the Husky mount trimmed down, I was still concerned about right turns taking it to its limits:



Don't think I needed to be, it will still turn pretty sharp without using up all the travel:



And I will likely remove the sway control for any planned maneuvering.

And the whole contraption seems pretty level now (in fact the trailer seems ever so slightly nose down, though the photo doesn't show it):


Man, you did an EXCELLENT job getting that level!!! Absolutely perfect...looks great! You will really feel the difference once you tow it a good bit of distance up and down some big hills; having the weight distributed properly and controlled definitely keeps your forward momentum going. Once the rig starts bouncing on bumps and becomes a bit "loose" you lose that forward momentum somewhat, energy is wasted, and you lose power as well as gas mileage.

Your setup seems superb now!

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That poor Sienna! It looks like the back of the van is being slowly crushed into the ground.

I would take that to a scale and measure your weight distribution. And, measure the drops front and rear; I realize the Sienna has a "soft" rear end but that is a LOT of sag. You don't want to unload the front driving axle nearly that much. That's not safe to do that.

You need to either add some rear air bags or shocks or properly angle the hitch and/or adjust the chains for more lift to the front of the van. Even with a soft rear suspension you should be able to get it WAAAAAAY better than that; the rear looks like a poor little puppy about to get crushed by a steamroller.

Good luck!
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The Cherokee is great, I've got about 1600 miles on it and it is one smooth ride. I kept trying to get a silver one but they were flying off the lot. I was lucky to get this one equipped the way I wanted. This weekend will be the first real trip with it towing the Airstream. I'll report back on how it performed.
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Old 04-10-2014, 05:55 AM   #538
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That poor Sienna! It looks like the back of the van is being slowly crushed into the ground.

I would take that to a scale and measure your weight distribution. And, measure the drops front and rear; I realize the Sienna has a "soft" rear end but that is a LOT of sag. You don't want to unload the front driving axle nearly that much. That's not safe to do that.

You need to either add some rear air bags or shocks or properly angle the hitch and/or adjust the chains for more lift to the front of the van. Even with a soft rear suspension you should be able to get it WAAAAAAY better than that; the rear looks like a poor little puppy about to get crushed by a steamroller.

Good luck!
I don't think it's being crushed, but it should sag less at the back. I've seen pictures of Steve's setup, it is a lot more level. My Odyssey, which isn't as soft in the back as the Sienna but still a similar vehicle is 100% level when towing.

I'd send a copy of that picture to Andy, see what he has to say. We have two Siennas in our WBCCI unit, they are good capable tow vehicles when set up right. It looks like yours might need some tweaking.
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That poor Sienna! It looks like the back of the van is being slowly crushed into the ground.

I would take that to a scale and measure your weight distribution. And, measure the drops front and rear; I realize the Sienna has a "soft" rear end but that is a LOT of sag. You don't want to unload the front driving axle nearly that much. That's not safe to do that.

You need to either add some rear air bags or shocks or properly angle the hitch and/or adjust the chains for more lift to the front of the van. Even with a soft rear suspension you should be able to get it WAAAAAAY better than that; the rear looks like a poor little puppy about to get crushed by a steamroller.

Good luck!
It is a little down at the back compared to my Sienna but he just needs to raise a link on those chains.
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I'm curious about two things on the above Sienna setup. "weight distribution chains have loosened up" ??? This is the first time I have seen such a reference. Care to elaborate as to why or how this happens ?

And the other thing, is to my eye ( maybe it's just the angle from which the pictures were taken ) it looks like the ends of the spring bars are very close to the ground. Are they dragging on driveway entrances and such ?
It's been my experience that the chains do need to be taken up a little with use, although it's the movement in the spring bar as much as the chains themselves; increased use makes the spring bars just a little bendier. Over three seasons use I've taken my chains up one whole link, although I used half inch bolts in the links to graduate the adjustment over that period, with each bolt representing a third of a link adjustment.
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I'm still a definite newbie here, but...

...in the EAZLift Elite installation instructions, linked below, they suggest on page 3:

"AFTER HOOKING UP
Spring bar should be parallel with trailer frame, or a slight angle up or down."

Yours are clearly angled down. One more link hanging might move them more towards level, and raise the rear of the Sienna slightly.

Of course, Andy's the expert, so I would run any and all modifications by him first. There are very likely good reasons he set you up the way he did.

Here's that link: http://manuals.adventurerv.net/Eaz-L...structions.pdf
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Looks like if you lift the weight bars by another 2-3 chain links it will get the rig closer to level. It looks like the Sienna is sitting low in the back and the Eddie Bauer is nose down.
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Of course, Andy's the expert, so I would run any and all modifications by him first. There are very likely good reasons he set you up the way he did.

Here's that link: http://manuals.adventurerv.net/Eaz-L...structions.pdf
I don't think Andy set the trailer up, they just installed the hitch. The trailer is nose down and the van isn't level, a rig looking like that wouldn't be allowed to leave the forecourt.

Should be an easy fix.
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I don't think Andy set the trailer up, they just installed the hitch. The trailer is nose down and the van isn't level, a rig looking like that wouldn't be allowed to leave the forecourt.

Should be an easy fix.
Quite right. Can-Am RV did not set it up as we did not have the trailer yet, though we were in the process of making the purchase so they knew what we would be towing.

I took a link out of the chain and that has leveled things out as anticipated. Though I am still about 2/16ths of an inch different between the front and the back of the Sienna. So I'll add a bolt to the chain and see if I can level it out more before I take it out next time.

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To my practically untrained eye, that looks a whole lot better!
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That's more like it.
Atta boy!
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