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01-01-2014, 09:53 PM
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#41
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Just had to say it!
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Originally Posted by idroba
Here is a photo from my past. The TV was a 1986 Mercedes 300 D (diesel) 5 cylinder, 77 HP as I recall. The hitch was a custom welded WD receiver type. The trailer was a 1963 Bambi.
It was sloooooooo, but always got me where I wanted to go. This photo was taken on a trip to California from Washington state, to look at a job offer. I didn't take the job, the Bambi is long gone (sigh), and the Mercedes too.
So, yes, Virginia, you can tow a Bambi with a 77 hp diesel.
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Hi, I learned very early on to hate those early Mercedes Diesels. When ever you got stuck behind one you could see the black smoke belching out of it's exhaust and smell the rotten Diesel fuel. You could easily spot one because you could see the black stained rear end long before you could see the "D" for Dumb Diesel. And for some reason that I could not understand, was that it seemed to take these cars three blocks to get over 15 MPH. By then you were thoroughly gassed. [pun intended] For this reason, I have never been a fan of Diesels.
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01-01-2014, 10:10 PM
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#42
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rluhr
Sweet! I've been tempted to hitch up my 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbo to my 1968 Caravel, but I've been afraid of killing the transmission. How many miles would you estimate you towed with this rig?
Being the turbo model, mine has a whopping 125 horsepower and 180 ft-lbs or torque ... or at least it did when it was new. That's still going to be slow by any measure. Perhaps I'll drive it downhill only.
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In thinking hard, it was a '76 300 D, non turbo, not an '86. I would bet I drove it about 5000 miles or more, the CA trip was probably 2500 alone. I took it on other shorter NW trips, and one to Utah I believe. Those transmissions were based on the GM THM 400 and are very rugged, even if they shift abruptly. I would not worry about that aspect at all. Your Caravel would be heavier than the Bambi, but you also have more power being a turbo.
I had an '83 Suburban Diesel with all of 145 hp, the early 6.3 L V8. I towed a couple of different 25' Airstreams all over, including the Dempster Highway north to the Arctic Circle. Wore out one engine, and the original POS Turbo 700 R4 transmission, but once I put a THM 400 in it, it went an additional 180,000 miles.
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01-02-2014, 04:48 AM
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#43
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,499
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I will try and see if I can find a picture of it somewhere but one of the cars I used to own was a 1964 Mercedes 190 diesel in Havana brown with the fintail body.
I bought it from the original owner, a retired officer in the British army, who had purchased it be while stationed in Germany. It wasn't the fastest car in the world but it but still fun to drive. In Europe diesel fuel was never as dirty as in the US so cars never smelled quite as bad. I never towed with the 190, used the Landie for that instead.
The 300 TD should make for a sturdy tow vehicle if you can live with the slow speed.
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01-02-2014, 05:38 AM
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#44
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Thanks for the photos, jim
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01-02-2014, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
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Andrea, do you have any photos or do you just want to talk about small vehicles. The OP wanted to see photos ans so would I. Less talk, more pictures. Jim
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01-02-2014, 09:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zigzagguzzi
Andrea, do you have any photos or do you just want to talk about small vehicles. The OP wanted to see photos ans so would I. Less talk, more pictures. Jim
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I posted the picture of the Golf Tdi, towing a Bambi.
I don't consider my own tow vehicle a small vehicle, that's why I haven't posted it.
Don't know if this qualifies as small, but here's a Range Rover towing an Airstream all the way to Africa:
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01-02-2014, 09:17 AM
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#47
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Rivet Master
2011 28' International
Chatham
, Ontario
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,401
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Here's a photo, Jim. I snapped this at Can Am last July. It's a sedan and a 30' International; I'm no car spotter so I'm not sure what car it is, but it is a good example of a smaller TV. It's using that basic EAZ-Lift hitch and, no doubt, a beefed up receiver.
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01-02-2014, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 28' International
Chatham
, Ontario
Join Date: Dec 2010
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My smaller TV, although it's not that small with a 119" wheelbase, acknowledging that the OP wasn't really interested in a minivan.
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01-02-2014, 09:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,525
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Having read a lot now on the VW tdi I am dissuaded by the flywheel problems many of them had. Major expense to repair these.
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01-02-2014, 09:41 AM
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#50
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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North Vancouver, BC
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01-02-2014, 09:50 AM
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#51
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Mojave towed with a Golf GTI. I think they got rid of their trailer after too many issues with it and are no longer active here.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f368...ml#post1058885
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North Vancouver, BC
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01-02-2014, 10:11 AM
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#52
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2 Rivet Member
1968 20' Globetrotter
Kelowna
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 79
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Jeep Liberty CRD
The diesel Jeep tows my 68 Globetrotter just fine! The short vehicle and short reach on the trailer make backing tricky, but I manage...
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01-02-2014, 11:03 AM
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#53
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,499
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Times past:
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01-02-2014, 11:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Folks, can we please not have this become another debate thread that will ultimately get locked? Can we please respect the OP's simple request for pictures showing small vehicle set ups? If you're not interested in towing with a small vehicle be aware that nobody here is trying to force you to. Please show the same consideration to those of us who wish to discuss smaller options.
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North Vancouver, BC
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01-02-2014, 11:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrUKToad
Here's a photo, Jim. I snapped this at Can Am last July. It's a sedan and a 30' International; I'm no car spotter so I'm not sure what car it is, but it is a good example of a smaller TV. It's using that basic EAZ-Lift hitch and, no doubt, a beefed up receiver.
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That is a current generation Ford Taurus.
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01-02-2014, 11:50 AM
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#56
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canlib
The diesel Jeep tows my 68 Globetrotter just fine! The short vehicle and short reach on the trailer make backing tricky, but I manage...
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The 3.7 gas with automatic transmission version of that is a very capable torque monster as well.
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01-02-2014, 11:56 AM
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#57
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
Somewhere
, roaming America
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,095
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Here you go. A Mercedes 190SL wouldn't be a great choice as a tow vehicle but it did make for a great photo!
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01-02-2014, 11:56 AM
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#58
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
That is a current generation Ford Taurus.
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Can anyone tell what size trailer that is?
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01-02-2014, 12:04 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephens
Can anyone tell what size trailer that is?
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According to Steve, who took the picture, a 30' International.
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01-02-2014, 12:14 PM
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#60
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Vintage Kin Owner
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