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Old 01-28-2014, 06:36 PM   #281
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Update-I just looked at the temps after driving (not towing) for an hour, 75F ambient temp. Trans 201, engine oil 199.
Are you sure you're not confusing oil temp and coolant temp? My gauge for the oil is in pressure and it does not show oil temperature. What vehicle do you have?
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:21 AM   #282
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Are you sure you're not confusing oil temp and coolant temp? My gauge for the oil is in pressure and it does not show oil temperature. What vehicle do you have?
Nope, it shows oil temp, oil pressure, trans temp, oil life, tire air pressure, alternator voltage, all on a driver selectable digital readout. It has a permanent analog coolant temp gage, like the gas gage, too.

I have a 2014 jeep but this has been standard on lots of Chrysler products for many years.
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:51 PM   #284
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My Chrysler 300 has hit a snag. I just can't get enough WD.

We went to the scales yesterday and out of 820# of tongue, only 140# got transferred to the front axle. Leaving 680 on the back. I test drove it briefly on the freeway and it felt light on the front and the wind was moving us around.

Today I tried adjusting the WD. First I tried getting up to the third link in the chains. Impossible. First, no way to jack the car that high. Second, I put a scissor jack under the bars and tried getting them up to the third link. Impossible, and worse yet, we created a dangerous situation with heavy parts flying. Extra links out of question. I then tilted the head back more. Ok, that again requires a higher lift of the car. We got it on the first link and I went back to the scales. That added a whoopping 60# to the front, 60# to the trailer axle, and took 120# off the back. Not nearly enough. That makes a total of 200# to the front.

How on earth can people be getting 300# or 400# of WD? By what conceivable method can the bars be lifted that high? Jacks? Winches? Cranes? Muscles? I don't get it. As it was, I nearly had the back wheels off the ground. Certainly my tongue jack is going to burn out lifting the car that high. I could almost smell the motor.

Driving home I was ready to just chuck the whole thing in, trailer and all.
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As I remember your new setup is using an Easy lift hitch? What weight bars are you using?
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:58 PM   #286
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As I remember your new setup is using an Easy lift hitch? What weight bars are you using?
1000# bars.

My TW is 820# or slightly more as measured.
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1000# bars.

My TW is 820# or slightly more as measured.
Sounds like it should work with those bars. How much weight are you trying to distribute to the front?

Maybe you should call Andy and let him help you.
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:16 PM   #288
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Hi, don't give up yet; I'm sure there is a way to get proper WD. My tongue jack has raised my Lincoln Navigator's wheels completely off of the ground a few times. Didn't hurt a thing. I'm sure your "300" is a lot lighter.
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My Chrysler 300 has hit a snag. I just can't get enough WD.

We went to the scales yesterday and out of 820# of tongue, only 140# got transferred to the front axle. Leaving 680 on the back. I test drove it briefly on the freeway and it felt light on the front and the wind was moving us around.

Today I tried adjusting the WD. First I tried getting up to the third link in the chains. Impossible. First, no way to jack the car that high. Second, I put a scissor jack under the bars and tried getting them up to the third link. Impossible, and worse yet, we created a dangerous situation with heavy parts flying. Extra links out of question. I then tilted the head back more. Ok, that again requires a higher lift of the car. We got it on the first link and I went back to the scales. That added a whoopping 60# to the front, 60# to the trailer axle, and took 120# off the back. Not nearly enough. That makes a total of 200# to the front.

How on earth can people be getting 300# or 400# of WD? By what conceivable method can the bars be lifted that high? Jacks? Winches? Cranes? Muscles? I don't get it. As it was, I nearly had the back wheels off the ground. Certainly my tongue jack is going to burn out lifting the car that high. I could almost smell the motor.

Driving home I was ready to just chuck the whole thing in, trailer and all.
For what it's worth, I have to jack the back of the Sienna up to the point at which the car's wheels are about to leave the ground. It hasn't harmed the jack over the past three seasons (yet) and my good friends at Can Am tell me it's all perfectly normal. The fuse went once, early on, but hasn't since.
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My Chrysler 300 has hit a snag. I just can't get enough WD.
I can't believe there is an issue here that is a problem. We have a similar setup and it easily transfers weight and it's no big deal to attach the bars. Mr. T. is the man to talk to.
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Sounds like it should work with those bars. How much weight are you trying to distribute to the front?

Maybe you should call Andy and let him help you.
I'd like to get 300# to the front as a minimum. That means 100 more. Yes, I'll call Andy on Monday. I hate to be such a pest on the poor guy. He's been very helpful already.

There's not that many variables that I can see. More WD required more force applied on the chains - no choice.
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I'd like to get 300# to the front as a minimum. That means 100 more. Yes, I'll call Andy on Monday. I hate to be such a pest on the poor guy. He's been very helpful already.

There's not that many variables that I can see. More WD required more force applied on the chains - no choice.
Yep that's about right, but why have you decided on needing 300#'s of transfer to the front axle, I believe you have installed air shocks?
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For what it's worth, I have to jack the back of the Sienna up to the point at which the car's wheels are about to leave the ground. It hasn't harmed the jack over the past three seasons (yet) and my good friends at Can Am tell me it's all perfectly normal. The fuse went once, early on, but hasn't since.
Ahhh, so you are in the same boat it sounds like? Do you know how much WD you are getting on your Sienna?

Dumb Question: What would happen if the rear wheels lost touch with the pavement? Does the parking brake work on the front wheels too? We've been wickedly nervous about such a high lift of the back of the car.

So maybe it "ain't no big deal?" Really? REALLY? LOL
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Yep that's about right, but why have you decided on needing 300#'s of transfer to the front axle, I believe you have installed air shocks?
Good question Steve.

First, I just assumed we want to get our f/r weight distribution close to what the car is without a trailer. 51% front. Second, when I test drove the first condition (140# on front) the steering felt too light. There was a bit of wander, and the steering felt a bit vague. This was at 55 MPH on the freeway.

My intuition says that when hooked up, I will get the best handling when the f/r weight ratio is as close as I can get to 51%.
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