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Old 02-06-2012, 09:35 AM   #15
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The 2012 capacities for the Tundra are 9,700 or 9,800 with tow package for the 5.7 L., double cab, 4WD. Difference is between long and standard bed. There are a variety of versions of this truck, all with different capacities. Payload is also down a bit. I think like models were previously rated 10,000 for the Tundra, though earlier 2nd generation Tundras were generally over 11,000.

Sequoia is 7,100 for 4WD, 5.7 L. 2WD adds 300 lbs. Like the Tundra, different versions are different I couldn't find any specs for payload. I suspect it is low.

I read the article newroswell linked to about the SAE ratings. I didn't really understand it and the question is whether these new ratings make sense.

Before the Toyota bashing starts (well, it already did), let's see what the new ratings are on other trucks.


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Old 02-06-2012, 11:29 AM   #16
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I have looked both at versions of the Suburban and the Excursion and frankly, I like the Sequoia much better. US Manufacturers continue to miss the simple things such as storage. The Sequoia has a nice under deck storage area for a hitch, jumper cables, rags, etc. whereas Ford and Chevy just figure you can throw them in the back to roll around, I guess.

I like the Tundra (have been using an '04 Double Cab as my commuting vehicle for years now) but frankly, I am tired of driving a pickup during these long Alaska winters. Unless I load several 100# of sand in the bed, I end up running in 4WD all the time and with the cap I have on it, it loses most of the utility of a pickup anyway. I figure I might as well get an SUV.

Current plans are you use a Hensley set up on the trailer and from what I am seeing here and by reading numerious other threads, I think it will be a good setup.

Thanks for all the help.

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:36 AM   #17
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I applaud Toyota for jumping on this new standard early. I also think there are a lot of options for towing a 7,600 lb trailer. With the 6 speed transmissions, better engines, big disc brakes, there are a lot of vehicles by at least 4 manufacturers to choose from. A 2012 1/2 ton is going to compete very well against a 10 year old 3/4 ton in those SAE tests. Now if you could just get a 1/2 ton with a smaller diesel!

It'll be interesting to see any vehicle changes to keep from taking a tow/payload rating hit. Will GM finally go to 4 wheel disc brakes, on an otherwise nice vehicle? Just 1000 lbs of payload adds 7.5 feet to the 60-0 stopping distance.

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:15 PM   #18
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I always give the same advice when people ask me what to buy... "Buy what you like". Because you are the one that has to be happy with it. I don't like the bashing here sometimes... "Why would you buy _____?".

Most modern vehicles are relatively similar... they all have similar warranties, get built in the same way, by similar people. There aren't a lot of models that are pure lemons anymore, though some models will have a few more problems than others.

If you find something that makes you smile, meets the specs you need, then buy it and be happy. I bought a brand new 4runner (2011) because on paper it was exactly what I needed... I owned a few Tacoma's and wanted an SUV. But, I just never fell in love with the look or feel of it. 9 months later I traded it on a Sequoia... and every time I drive it I think "Man, this is a real dream!".

I have a friend who feels the same way about his Suburban, and another about his 1 ton diesel Chev... it doesn't matter what I think (though I think they both are brain injured)... they love their trucks. Another buddy has had the worst luck with his 1 ton Dodge, but still loves the thing and buys all kinds of trinkets for it.

My first car was an 87 Mustang GT... typical kids car... what a piece of junk. But, in my head, still the best car I ever had.

Buy what you like.

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