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Old 09-21-2014, 08:14 PM   #57
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Don't even want to ask... have you checked tire inflation on your truck? 5lb low in the back, then drop a trailer on the hitch = headlights pointing to the sky. (Oh and check your Air pressure gauge if it's mechanical. Someone spilled cola on mine so it didn't go below 55 psi. Now I have a digital one.

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Old 09-21-2014, 08:41 PM   #58
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You are right, Paula. Tires should be at max or close to it. Also if he is running the P metric tires that it came with instead of LT, that will also make a difference.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:51 PM   #59
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Added air Monday in Tennessee on the way to Jackson Center. I think the handling is as good as it gets with a half-ton and an Equal-i-zer. I just want the trailer to ride level. I'm gonna raise the ball and add washers, but today it got to 95 degrees and now it's raining-
Maybe I'll get it done before we go to Texas next month. I did fill the fresh water tank and the trailer rides smoother. I don't think this has any effect on the trailer being nose down because the tank is over the front axle.
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Old 09-21-2014, 11:44 PM   #60
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The original instructions from my PO said max of six washers. I ordered some updates for my hitch and the instructions that came along said seven. Regarding compression, i dont know how many miles were on the setup because i had only put on about 50, but it looked like it had been a while since it had been taken apart.

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Old 09-22-2014, 11:07 PM   #61
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Frankly,,,, I can take all of the tongue weight and more off of my truck with my hitch with 1,000 pound bars, and the tongue of my trailer ain't light.

If you cant get the tongue weight off of the truck,

A. Something is wrong with the WD system.

B. It is not setup right.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:34 PM   #62
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Compressing washers?
That could explain the rig being level one day and not the next?
The washers supplied by EQ are hardened and it is unlikely that they are compressing to any degree ...

Adding washers is essentially the same as raising the L-brackets. You need to find a balance where the load bars are a close to parallel to the frame/ground as possible.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:32 AM   #63
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I raised the ball. It still doesn't look right. I got out the instructions and started over at step 1. According to the instructions up to 1 1/4" nose down is acceptable. According to the instructions 2" compression on the rear suspension is the target. The pictogram for "acceptable" or "right" shows a sagging truck with a horizontal dotted line through it. It just isn't acceptable to me. I will tinker with it some more this weekend at the campground. I have really almost exhausted all possibilities/combinations and I cannot afford another truck. As bad as I don't like it, I may have to live with it. I will get a couple more washers to try. That will really be the last thing to try other than raising the ball again. It seems like raising the ball just pushes the tail end of the truck down even further while the trailer is remaining in the same attitude/height. All I have accomplished in all this tinkering is getting the rear of the truck up a couple of inches (a good thing- proper weight distribution) and better anti-sway control (also a good thing). Adjusting the L-brackets has had more influence on the whole rig than washers or ball height. That makes me wonder if I should get 1,200# bars. If I could just get that trailer level. The instructions indicated that I may not get the trailer level, but if I have to choose nose down is better/safer than nose up.
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:43 PM   #64
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The trailer is still slightly nose down. I'm gonna try raising the ball another notch.
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Old 09-26-2014, 02:11 PM   #65
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Visually the truck looks good, as long as the rear is not higher and the front is not lower than unloaded heights. Raising the ball on the receiver should bring the trailer level and all looks well.
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Old 09-26-2014, 02:40 PM   #66
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Picture looks good. I take my trailer measurements at the front and rear frame-to-ground and then use that to determine if level. How many washers do you have in now?

It is significant if you have already raised the rear of the truck by 2". Washer number changing has the same effect as changing L-bracket height position. you can effectively change the stiffness of your load bars by moving the L-brackets closer to the coupler. IIRC the manual says to use the range of 27-32" from the center of the ball/coupling to the front edge of the L-bracket mounts.
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I am the original poster and I thought I would give an update. I have solved my truck level issue through a combination of the tire pressures and hitch tilt angle. As I shared I am using a Husky round bar WD with 800-1200lb bars. I first tried the addition of 1 additional washer but ultimately ended up with 2 additional for a total of 7. Today I measure the weights at a CAT station and got the following:
Front TV axle: 3360 lbs
Rear TV axle: 3580 lbs
Trailer axle: 6060
Total Axles: 13,000

Additionally: Here were the fender well height differentials.
Front axle before hookup: 36 1/8 after: 36"
Rear axle before hookup: 38 1/2 after 38"

The other piece of data is: the trailer is absolutely plumb level.

I feel much better and am much more confident in the setup.
The AS dealership in our local area did the original setup and am a little disappointed that they did not do it right the first time. A newbie to WD towing is not going to be able trouble shoot until he/she acquires the knowledge and that be definition is going to take a while.

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Man, that is a sharp looking rig and setup right there m.hony! Too bad this forum doesn't allow us to have signature images. A lil HDR filter and it pops!
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I have 6 washers. I might add 1 or 2 more-
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Man, that is a sharp looking rig and setup right there m.hony! Too bad this forum doesn't allow us to have signature images. A lil HDR filter and it pops!

I'm pretty fond of it-
I wish I could get rid of the house and live in the camper at the shop-
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