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Old 09-13-2014, 07:28 AM   #15
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This is why we went with a 3/4 ton truck. The half ton probably would have handled our trailer most of the time, but there are trips where we'll have a bunch of extra weight in the bed and we didn't want to overload. If you're doing that every trip, that's almost certainly the issue. The Hensley isn't a light hitch, either, from what I understand.

The other option would be to simply replace the springs (and other parts causing the sagging). It's a lot cheaper than a new truck, even if you have to do it every other year.
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Old 09-13-2014, 07:50 AM   #16
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To the original poster, if I were in your situation, I would try a set of Timbren rubber over load springs: Vehicle Suspension for 2012 Ram 1500 - Timbren TDR1500DQ

I have used them and they work very well, do not effect the unloaded ride, and do not require adding air every time you hook up the trailer. However, you still need to get your weight distribution hitch setup correctly.
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:42 AM   #17
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Old 09-13-2014, 10:24 AM   #18
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To the poster who mentioned ball angle...I am unclear of how that would have an effect on WD loading. I talked to our local AS dealer and he mentioned the same thing and suggested putting a washer on the Husky hitch to move the ball forward. While I try to figure out how to gain more loading I have decided to install the Goodyear independent airbags. I have come to grips in my mind that by doing so I will be increasing the load capacity of the springs and yet still well under the spring capacity, ie 3900lb/axle.
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Old 09-13-2014, 11:29 AM   #19
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The hitch ball angle adjustment on weight distribution systems is designed to provide more or less distribution of the tongue weight on your trailer hitch to the trailer and vehicle axles. If you adjust the ball angle farther away from the towing vehicle, you will angle the weight distribution spring bars down toward the ground and that will distribute more weight. Angling the ball forward towards the towing vehicle puts less angle on the spring bars and therefore less weight is distributed.

At least that is how it was explained to me. We also had to adjust my hitch height. We took the hitch off the PO's F350 and put it on mine, when we hitched up my front end pointed to the sky, unhitched did a measurement and realized we'd have to adjust it. Everything is different vehicle to vehicle.
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Old 09-13-2014, 11:44 AM   #20
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To the poster who mentioned ball angle...I am unclear of how that would have an effect on WD loading.---
Increasing the rearward tilt of the ball mount makes the WD bars have more downward slope, and that will make the bar tips lower when they are not under load.
If the bar tips start out lower, and you raise them to the same elevation (e.g. three loose links), you will create more upward force on the bars.
The increased upward force on the bars will cause more load to be removed from the TV's rear axle.

However, if you only can get three loose links, perhaps you are not lifting the rear of the TV high enough with the tongue jack when hooking up the WD bars?

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---I talked to our local AS dealer and he mentioned the same thing and suggested putting a washer on the Husky hitch to move the ball forward.---
I believe adding a washer will increase the rearward tilt of the ball mount. This can enable the bars to create more load transfer.

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By adding air bags, you will not increase the load capacity of the springs. The bags simply will carry some of the load which was being carried by the springs.

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Old 09-13-2014, 12:13 PM   #21
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By adding air bags, you will not increase the load capacity of the springs. The bags simply will carry some of the load which was being carried by the springs. Ron
Overall effect on the tow vehicle is the same.
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:46 PM   #22
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Springs as a function of design compress under load, and after time they get a little "tired", a little bit of rear sag does not make a combination unsafe.

Also, IMHO, tongue weight removed via WD is not to be added into the "cargo weight".
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This guy managed to get his truck level :P

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Old 09-13-2014, 12:52 PM   #24
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Good comment on the ball angle...that makes sense but...as I said earlier, with my trailer lifted reasonably high prior to attaching the WD bars I am taking up as many chain links as I can reach. So if the case as you suggest where the bars are tilted lower away from the frame rail can I load the bars any greater then without any ball tilt? I would imagine that with the ball angle tilted away I might not be able to get to my three loose links that I now am able to do (it might only be two).
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My trailer is a little nose down and my truck's suspension compresses too much when hitched.
I will try 2 things to make it better- raise the front of the trailer a little and compress the rear suspension less-
First, I will try adding a washer or 2- this should transfer a little more weight to the front axle and trailer axles, thereby raising the front of the trailer a little and decreasing the compression of the rear of the truck.
Second, if the washer(s) don't git-r- dun, I will try inverting the hitch shank and raising the ball one notch higher than it is now.
As it is now, I am within 200 pounds of my rear axle limit, 400 pounds of my front axle limit, and 1,500 pounds of my trailer axle limit. Maybe the washer/raising the all will move another 100 pounds to the front axle and another 100 pounds to the truck axle.
After I try those 2 things, I'm out of options. I simply cannot afford another truck. We'll just run what we brung-
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Bikes and firewood are in the bed of the truck.
I like the convenience of having the firewood at the back, but firewood at the front is better for weight distribution.
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Good comment on the ball angle...that makes sense but...as I said earlier, with my trailer lifted reasonably high prior to attaching the WD bars I am taking up as many chain links as I can reach. So if the case as you suggest where the bars are tilted lower away from the frame rail can I load the bars any greater then without any ball tilt? I would imagine that with the ball angle tilted away I might not be able to get to my three loose links that I now am able to do (it might only be two).
number of chain links is kind of irrelevant; you use the one that reaches the hook when the chain is taut.
Without the head being tilted back, you've got a lever without much of a fulcrum.
Another thing to look at is the receiver, itself. Is it a stock receiver hitch, from the factory, or aftermarket? Some have been known to flex when WD torque is applied, and if the receiver tube can flex more than a slight amount, the torque is absorbed by the receiver, and not transformed to the truck's frame, and weight won't be distributed.
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