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Old 01-06-2014, 10:46 AM   #1
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SAE Towing Standards Video

I ran across this Youtube video about the SAE towing standards for vehicles and the status of implementation of the towing standards. I thought some may find this interesting.


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Old 01-08-2014, 05:34 AM   #2
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very informative video, thx RR3.
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I found it interesting as well, especially the acceleration parameters with regard to joining a highway and hill starts. It got me thinking more about some of the frequent comments suggesting that driving slowly equates to greater safety. I'm more a believer in keeping pace with traffic and if I couldn't do so I wouldn't be anywhere near a highway. The linked vid is a bit lengthy but might be of interest too.
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Yea - I too think driving or in our instances "towing" with the flow of traffic is the best bet, especially with our Airstreams and modern day vehicles...
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Except that highway traffic is usually moving too fast for an articulated vehicle, which have a natural point of instability related to speed, far more so than a solo vehicle. And this is different than braking or accident-avoidance maneuvering speeds. Going with the flow in pack of morons who've failed to maintain adequate following distances is more a recipe for disaster. Given that few A/S owners appear interested in actually setting up a WD hitch to its best, or better tires, much less install best brakes or controller, I'd hardly consider this to be wise. They wouldn't know how the rig should handle just for starters. There is a point where an A/S being a better TT is not nearly enough margin (and, as always, a pickup truck TV only makes a good thing worse).

Keep never less than a four-second following distance, preferably five seconds, is closer to good advice. One would never (I have never) seen this advice of "flow" given in driving 18-wheelers. Travel speed is an actual irrelevancy if a situation is understood correctly. Best forward progress is time management, not mph. No one can seen around curves or through hills, but the morons act as though there will never be a problem . . so why drive "with" them. Learning to manage them around ones rig is no great skill accomplishment.

J2807 has some huge flaws, some of which we have discussed in the past. It needs revision to be taken seriously as a guide for best practice.

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I wasn't going to advocate "Going with the flow in pack of morons who've failed to maintain adequate following distances" I would suggest that if all the conditions are met that a flow of vehicles all reasonably matching speed with adequate space between each other would be safer than a highway comprised of vehicles all travelling at wildly differing speeds. Oddly the only time I have been required to carry out that concept is the UK motorcycle test; to be fair riding at or below the speed limit in London is going to leave you a law abiding smear on the road.
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Long time ago I recall a bumper sticker that said " I may be slow but I'm ahead of you". I think I drive carefully AND defensively so I will drive to the conditions that my vehicle can handle safely and if I'm holding you up have patience. I will pull over when it's safe and you can speed on by. I have no desire to keep up with anyone.
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I'm happy to scoot out of harms way too, not just towing either.
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