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Old 04-17-2007, 11:31 AM   #15
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Must not be Rush hour!

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how do you go 75 mph in rush hour traffic...sounds like an accident looking for a place to happen.
Glad you're okay!

Here in San Antonio the top speed in rush hour is about 15 MPH. I guess I should count my blessings since not too much can happen at that speed.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:03 PM   #16
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Perhaps the lifted suspension raised the center of gravity high enough to encourage the rollover in the first place. Surviving an accident is a great thing, not having one in the first place is even better.
Lifted suspension, What lift?? This Is a lift, Its my Daley driver.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:31 PM   #17
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This was my old tow vehicle, 1991 2500 2wd 454 Suburban.. What do you think I believe If I would have been In any thing other the a Burban I would be, DOA
wow daplumber

glad you are ok.

were you wearing the seatbelt/shoulder harness?

i rolled a 71 vw bug 6-7 times side ways and 3 times end to end...

and we both walked away shaken but not stirred.

held into the seats with old style 'no release' should belts...

so what's it mean?

you and i were very very lucky. that's it.

all of the collected hiway single vehicle rollover data suggest a suburban or a bug is NOT the place to be...

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We have our first Suburban and I am feeling safe in it. I'm hoping I don't have to roll 5 times to find out for sure though....
22% chance of rolling a burb in a single car accident....

lots of lawsuits and issues related to the roof collapses and a/b pillars not up to bearing the rolled load.

i can site dozens of cases where the occupants died or are para/quads now...

most weren't wearing the restrants but ALL had roof collapse.

so carol are the new ones stronger?

no doubt, but a 1/5 chance of rolling doesn't make tall suvs safe....

but it does make this observation spot on....

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Yup, they roll pretty good.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:56 PM   #18
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I, too, rolled a VW bug, 1967 variety. On a 2-lane highway in the desert when I came upon a totally stopped car, two wheels on the highway and two off. Driver off to the side taking pictures of wildflowers. I swerved left and shot straight into the desert, but still rolled 3 times. Walked away with an arm sore from banging on the window sill (window closed, fortunately), and head a little banged from repeatedly hitting the top. Yea seatbelts!

Now when I see a VW bug on the road I'm amazed so many of us survived, fuel tank up-front, no real protection. But they were great fun cars. Fly real good, too.

I guess there aren't likely to be any posts here from those that dion't survive, but it makes sense a vehicle with a high center of gravity (Suburban, not VW, which had a different problem) are more likely to roll.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:09 PM   #19
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hello rsg-s...

(rollover survivor group)

in my case the cause was entirely driver error...

or errors.

1. in a hurry
2. heavy rain
3. heavy use interstate with standing water in worn wheel paths
4. speed as fast as a bug would go without drafting...
5. 4 tires showing cords like the lint in my pockets...

so the bug hydroplaned in commuter traffic.
and started rotating...
like skipping rocks on a pond.
i managed to 'correct' and stop the rotation
backwards facing traffic in my lanes...
and then drifted to the shoulder...
at 60mph or so....
and like a gutter ball rolled on, and on.
without hitting any pins.

like cammur the side glass was up and intact afterward.

we crawled out the rear center glass, after kicking it out.
to a group of folks who stopped to 'help'...

30 years ago this month.

i've never been 'tire poor' since.
barefoot yes, but tires before food.
rather my temper wear thin, than me'tires

some call it pertinaciousness

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Old 04-17-2007, 05:20 PM   #20
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some call it pertinaciousness

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I would call it 2 airing on the side of caution.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:02 PM   #21
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New Jersey's Governor Corzine wasn't so lucky when his suburban was involved in an accident recently. Guess what his driver was speeding at 91 miles an hour and the Governor did not have a seat belt on. The governor was critically injured with a broken left thigh bone, 11 ribs, collarbone and chest bone. He also fractured vertebrae in his lower back. So you should all consider yourself very fortunate seat belts are the thing. If he had his on he probably would escape serious injury.
N.J. governor's SUV was going 91 mph before crash | KOMO-TV - Seattle, Washington | National & World News
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:47 PM   #22
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Speed Kills

Safety is a Perception or at best an assumption.

Someone was on your side - this time....Glad you made it through to warn us all of the above...
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:54 PM   #23
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Speed kills, Gun's and house hold cleaners yes they all KILL Give me a brake People kill and that's that
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:52 PM   #24
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Speed kills, Gun's and house hold cleaners yes they all KILL Give me a brake People kill and that's that
If you wish to kill yourself, go for it. But there are the innocent victims to consider when you do it with an automobile.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:21 PM   #25
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:27 PM   #26
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What do you think ... DOA
well u did ask...

the challenge then becomes...

tolerating the thoughts of others.

your photos and story are useful so,

i hope this thread isn't headed for the ditch.

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Old 04-18-2007, 02:01 AM   #27
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I've been in the fire service since March/1978. Naturally, I've seen lots of wrecks. Pick-ups, VW's, SUV's, Corvettes, Volvos, on and on.

A couple of common denominators:
No seatbelts, or improperly worn.
Drunk. (Duh)
Modified chassis. (Jacked up, Raised, lifted - choose your term)
Too fast for conditions. (Rain, ice, curves, etc.)
Distracted by stereo/radio/cell phone
Even had one distracted by sexual activity.

Many of these are self induced, and the only people hurt are the one(s) at fault. All too often the fool takes out an innocent person just trying to make it to work to support their family. It could be you or me. I get tired of the stupidity. (Although it helps pay the check)

If everyone only took some personal responsibility....

Sorry for venting,
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:16 AM   #28
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Wasn't it a state trooper driving the governor? You would think he would have not been speeding and have made sure his passenger was belted. 92 in a 65 zone is pretty fast, hmm?

I mean I know you have to keep up with traffic and around here they do just as Terry said, 75 no less then rush up and stop and wait, if traffic gets backed up, and with road construction around here there usually is a wait. But 92 for driving the governor seems excessive.
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