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Old 01-27-2014, 06:20 PM   #29
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If I had my way, there would be wagons and vans and the heck with SUV's. My wife loves her 96 Subaru Legacy Wagon. The Subaru is well engineered and designed to be maintained. I wish they made something with the stones to pull a trailer. I grew up in vans and you can't beat their interior volume with anything else. I ended up with a Ford Excursion because it was cheap but a full size van with a single row of seats in the back would have been great. The Flex is basically a light duty wagon and not what I would call a tow vehicle. I would say it is a squashed minivan.

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Old 01-27-2014, 06:58 PM   #30
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Here's another confusing one.
This is Susan's vehicle.
It does have four doors.
Is it a SUV or a Station wagon?
It has the optional Snow AND Mud trim package.
And it has selectable 4WD.

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Not confusing.
It's a hatch back.
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The Flex is basically a light duty wagon and not what I would call a tow vehicle. I would say it is a squashed minivan.
With a long wheelbase and a 4500# towing capacity, I don't see any reason not to consider it a tow vehicle.

Which makes me wonder, what kind of towing capacity did those big old station wagons have back in the day? Were they rated for how much they could tow? I grew up with a late-60s Bonneville as the family car. We never towed with it, but I believe that beast could have pulled just about any Airstream they made.
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Not confusing.
It's a hatch back.
My Subaru has 4 doors and 4WD and a back that opens in the exact same manner as the Nissan Juke. Why is it not a hatchback or a SUV instead of a station wagon?

My point is: You can't compare a hatchback to a station wagon to a SUV or decide which is more popular, when the only thing that defines one from another is: "that's what the manufacturer or some auto magazine decided to call it."

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Just happened to snap this pic at lunch today walking across the street in Boca Grande Fl. 1967??
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:33 PM   #35
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If GM would only come out with a 57 Chevy Wagon replica, they would sell a million of them, particularly the Nomad. I am kinda partial to the 210 Beauville 9 seater. They only sold a little over 20K of them so its very hard to find.
Preach it! Just make it capable of 10,000# towing - preferably a diesel and 6 speed Allison.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:35 PM   #36
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Ok, so tell me how bad it is that my hubby and I like this look:

Because the people on the Flex forum HATE this - I mean they really HATE it. Like they want to set fire to it...
I like it. Real wood? If just the "contact paper", then no. Sorry if that's snobby :-/
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:38 PM   #37
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Just happened to snap this pic at lunch today walking across the street in Boca Grande Fl. 1967??
When station wagons were cool :-)

Looks like a truck with a car body :-)
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I like it. Real wood? If just the "contact paper", then no. Sorry if that's snobby :-/

Try buying enough dynoc to restore a '48 Chrysler Town & Country convertible and you'll rethink your comment on contact paper!
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Possibly.
Looks like my grandmother's '67, but hers was white.
The woody trim and the blue interior are the same.
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My Subaru has 4 doors and 4WD and a back that opens in the exact same manner as the Nissan Juke. Why is it not a hatchback or a SUV instead of a station wagon?

My point is: You can't compare a hatchback to a station wagon to a SUV or decide which is more popular, when the only thing that defines one from another is: "that's what the manufacturer or some auto magazine decided to call it."

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The only difference I see between a station wagon and a hatchback is the length of the storage area behind the back seat.
Station wagons are longer than hatchbacks.
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When station wagons were cool :-)

Looks like a truck with a car body :-)
My granddaddy always said it had the same frame as a Lincoln Continental.
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Low production numbers are only part of the reason that vintage wagons haven't survived all that well. They were usually bought for a purpose, so they were "rode hard and put up wet." They also didn't fare as well in the collector market for many years so not only were people not spending money to rescue them, they were probably cannibalizing them for parts that were common to the more sought-after coupes and hardtops.
And the ones that did survive were the preferred choice for a demolition derby car. What a shame.

I'm a wagon (European touring) fan. I'd like it if BMW were to sell the M550d Touring here in the USA.
BMW 5 Series Touring : BMW M550d xDrive
540 lb/ft of torque at 2,000-3,000 RPM and 381HP at 4,000 RPM would make towing a piece of cake.
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