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Old 02-20-2008, 10:17 AM   #29
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Bill, your viewpoints are well articulated.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:54 AM   #30
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say you were going to drop $30G on a new truck, this could get you either a F150 or F250.Very easily.
You're not comparing apples to apples, there. what you'd get is an F250 with $5000 less "goodies" than the 150.
you said that there's "no real cost difference". 5g's is very real, to me.

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If you're objective is towing, then the decision should be easy.
My vehicle has many purposes, of which towing is only 1.

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If you were selling trucks, couldn't you have arranged a better deal? For yourself?
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I got my truck for as cheap as it could be had, and it was as much as I could afford. They cost what they cost.

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Again, simply false
it is NOT false. what I said, is what it cost, (msrp) for that truck, at that point in time.

So chevy, today, charges less. whoop-de-freakin-doo, its still "thousand$" of dollars for the option. If that's not "real" to you, then well, congratulations, and god bless america. I'm happy for you.

I'm also happy that you're happy with your choice.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:57 AM   #31
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I continue to agree

Bill,

Yep,

We are on the same page, possibly some small differences, but overall, your on target.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:06 PM   #32
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My goal, when I bought my Duramax-Allison, was to have a long-term, trouble free rig that would give me pleasure each time I used it. Just as with my Airstream.

Aside from a stupid-mechanic trick that caused a tow, I have been rewarded by my choice and hope I have 10 more years of this kind of service.

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Old 02-20-2008, 05:22 PM   #33
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Thumbs up What Next....

Wait til next year..

New oil burner in the Chevy 1500 series.

Can't wait for that discussion.

Karma too ya...this is a great read'n thread.

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Old 02-20-2008, 06:20 PM   #34
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Hmm... Last time I went truck shopping I found one (1) Hemi powered 2500 Ram. It was less than a Hemi powered 1500 Ram of the same trim level - both used, similar miles. It was a couple thousand less, IIRC.

Decided rear seat was too small. Bought a Chevy.
Unlike some others who have posted here, our truck has exactly one purpose: to tow the trailer. I start it up about once every couple of weeks in the winter, and occasionally MrsRedshed will cram the back full of girl scout cookies or recycling, but that's about it. I bet we haven't put 500 miles on it since October.
It's a 1500HD, and I feel it's a pretty good match for the 31' Excella.
Not really looking forward to $4 gas, however.
We use one car and other means to satisfy our commuting/grocery needs.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:58 PM   #35
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Hmm... Last time I went truck shopping I found one (1) Hemi powered 2500 Ram. It was less than a Hemi powered 1500 Ram of the same trim level - both used, similar miles. It was a couple thousand less, IIRC.

Decided rear seat was too small. Bought a Chevy.
Unlike some others who have posted here, our truck has exactly one purpose: to tow the trailer. I start it up about once every couple of weeks in the winter, and occasionally MrsRedshed will cram the back full of girl scout cookies or recycling, but that's about it. I bet we haven't put 500 miles on it since October.
It's a 1500HD, and I feel it's a pretty good match for the 31' Excella.
Not really looking forward to $4 gas, however.
We use one car and other means to satisfy our commuting/grocery needs.

Its a great truck, I have a friend that tows a 28 Sea Ray often with a 1500 HD and it just does the job. I considered the 1500 HD but Ford had lease rates in Sept and Oct that were too good to turn down. I am a marine guy and running a gasser at 3800 rpm to get up hill is a walk in the park. Tows all day a 28 at 2200rpm out of over drive. I usually pass the diesel 5ver way overloaded. This is why I like the console shift. Real busy in the Mountains here in the western US. Your decision for a 1500 HD is well thought out. It will give your A/S a long life as well.
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Wait til next year..

New oil burner in the Chevy 1500 series.

Can't wait for that discussion.

Karma too ya...this is a great read'n thread.

here's what I chose.
God I love the 8100, great design and fixed all the problems of a 454. Guess it is not in Marine version anymore??
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Safety

I know most of you have mentioned safety and brakes as the reason for a 3/4 ton. Today I saw all day my trailer brakes were not on due to some corrosion in the connection on the trailer. Never looked at the Prodigy untill late. Granted lts of flat land in eastern New Mexico and, if you spend time in the Ford delarship you will see what they have done to relieve heat in the brake systems on the 08 1/2 tons. I tell you they have blurred the 2 models due to the threat of the Japanese.

I am earning my stripes here and want industry experts like Andrew T and Inland Andy to chime in. In an evasive move, are you safer in a 150 or a 250 or 350. I think I know the answer, and the reason Airstram used a Porche for its promo, but please, safety in my mind does not justify a 3/4 ton.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #38
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Wait til next year..

New oil burner in the Chevy 1500 series.

Can't wait for that discussion.

Karma too ya...this is a great read'n thread.

here's what I chose.
Hey Robert I have one of those 8100's in my 03 Avalanche. I love it!!
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:41 PM   #39
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Hey Robert I have one of those 8100's in my 03 Avalanche. I love it!!
Well it's time to replace the Frantic Banana #1 (see classified section)

Just couldnt pass this one up. 2006 3/4 Suburban. 14610mi. G.M.

exec demo, Put in service 3/07. fac warranty to 3/10. this darn thing is

loaded. Pick it up in N.C. the first week of March. Waddya think.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:51 PM   #40
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Bill, You make some valid points...but,


A couple of points where my thought diverge from yours....
1. I have never had a "white knuckle" experience. I just delivered a 29' A/S trailer to the midwest, I tow my 25' Safari all over with no problems.


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The key point here is that you're towing a 25' AS. Try pulling a 31 or 34 foot AS with a 1/2 ton....it just isn't safe because I can speak from experience. We went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased 1 ton truck with diesel. Many people have insisted that this will damage the TT but after 12k miles of towing there is no damage to our 34' Excella.

Good luck and may the best man win! Oh...I guess we all won because we have an Airstream.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:52 PM   #41
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The key point here is that you're towing a 25' AS. Try pulling a 31 or 34 foot AS with a 1/2 ton....it just isn't safe because I can speak from experience. We went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased 1 ton truck with diesel. Many people have insisted that this will damage the TT but after 12k miles of towing there is no damage to our 34' Excella.

Good luck and may the best man win! Oh...I guess we all won because we have an Airstream.
There are obvious limitations to a 1/2 ton vehicle.
But please note that in the original post, Bill tows a 25' A/S. I don't recall Bill limiting the conversation to something over 30'. In fact, the A/S I towed to Missouri was a 29 footer.
Are you now saying that someone needs a 1 ton diesel for a 31 or 34?
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Well it's time to replace the Frantic Banana #1 (see classified section)

Just couldnt pass this one up. 2006 3/4 Suburban. 14610mi. G.M.

exec demo, Put in service 3/07. fac warranty to 3/10. this darn thing is

loaded. Pick it up in N.C. the first week of March. Waddya think.
I have this same vehicle. Same 4.10s, sight and sound, etc.... Not sure if you got an 8.1L or the 6.0L, but I will say that the fit and finish on these are great. Braking is outstanding, and I don't even have to say how well it tows 6300lbs of RV. There have been many times where I have to check if the Safari is still back there.

I would wholeheartedly suggest that you change out the fluids in the driveline when time permits after it's been broken in towing. There is a specific break in procedure for the first 500 miles of towing.
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