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Old 09-02-2009, 05:32 PM   #29
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im pretty sure that trailer is bigger than 19'
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no 19' has 4 wheels right?
Don't know about axles, I just guessed based on the length of a porsche cayenne being 15' 6", and in the shot where they are talking about the TV, you can see that the AS is only a little longer then the TV. Either way, if its much longer, it weighs more then your FJ is rated for.

edit, after purusing a couple web sites, it could in fact be a 23' FC... to heavy.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:45 PM   #30
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The FJ has the power to pull a good sized Airstream. Stability is the issue. Some modifications to the FJ (ie a firmer tire) or a quality hitch like this Trailer Sway Elimination Guaranteed - Hensley® the ONLY trailer hitch guaranteed to totally eliminate trailer sway. will likely keep it in line.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:14 PM   #31
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I've heard that said before and I wonder what percentage of the money actually goes to support US labor and how much goes back to the fatherland in the form of profits every year?
In the last two years the answer is zero. Toyota has been losing money, as have the U.S auto makers, for at least the last two years. So I guess that means that the "fatherland" has been sending money here to support U.S. labor. As a shareholder in Toyota, as well as a blond haired blue eyed American, I can assure you that Toyota is an international company, with international shareholders and a purely international business. Much like Ford, GE, GM, etc. Xenophobia has no place in a modern economy. American labor loves to build quality products whenever their managers allow them. Where the company is headquartered really doesn't matter, does it?
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:16 PM   #32
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ahhhh, thanks road ruler....I am such an optimist that I am inclined to have hope. I will do some research in that Henley Arrow. SOunds like a good thing to have no matter what size trailer.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:20 PM   #33
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OMG!! haha look at all the little cars towing these huge trailers

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Old 09-03-2009, 07:22 AM   #34
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We have been towing our 23' International with a 2005 Jeep
Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi and a Reese hitch system. We just started using McKesh mirrors and have found them to make travelling infinitely safer.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:53 PM   #35
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Well, my AS 23 FB Flying Cloud came in. I love it. It's all shiny and new. I have a Chevy Avalanche with a V8 engine and a tow package. The max wt of that trailer is 6000. The unloaded vehicle weight of the trailer is 4757. I am heading out west and up north next spring. Do you all think I need to get the upgraded tranny cooler for the Avalanche. With my engine, research shows the maximum that I should tow is 8300. The vehicle lists 7000. I have the Blue Ox 1000 lb sway/weight distribution system.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:55 PM   #36
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I guess I should say, I do not own it yet. Looking to purchase it in the next 10 days. I have cancer and I don't know if I'll be able to make my trip next year. I don't know if it would be a worthwhile purchase because I don't know how long I will be able to use it.

If I purchase, I did decide on the 23' FB Flying Cloud instead of it 25' version.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:10 PM   #37
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I have dealt with cancer as well this past year. Doing okay now, but makes you think about life in simpler terms. We bought a 20' ft Safari as a replacement for our beloved VW camper because we wanted to spend more time traveling, but keeping our equipment relatively small and easy to handle. Camper vans are tight on space, but exceedingly easy to use, even for those with limited abilities. Travel trailers require some physical strength to hitch/unhitch and set up. Have you looked at these campers. There are many brand new two year old models available at big discounts: Airstream, Inc :: Interstate
If you are alone, it may work well for you. However, the downside of these is if you want to leave the campsite, the whole thing must go.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:31 PM   #38
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we pull our 23' Safari with a V8 Ford Explorer & our parents pull a huge 34' with the same vehicle (they have a Hensley, we don't)
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I have the strength to hook and unhook. I generally can tow for 4 hours and set up. After that, I am down for the count. I plan to take a slow trip to Alaska and back. Now, do you find the 23 adequate as far as space is concerned.
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My wife and I just spent 3 weeks on the road with our 23 International and found8 it more than adequate, and quite easy to maneuver. I note, however, that I am only 5'8" tall - if I were taller, the bed might be a problem.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:10 AM   #41
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Our 23ft floor plan is as follows - seems to serve us well (family of 4):

-gaucho couch at front
-galley kitchen (with small fridge, stove & cooktop)
-in the middle we have another gaucho couch on the left and on the right a closet & small sort of dresser (we bought a little microwave & sit it here, and kids use portable DVD player in this spot too on rainy days).
-rear is 'wet' bathroom - we only use toilet in the night or in emergencies, we don't shower in the trailer (we use the camp's showers)

-we are a family of 4 (2 adults are 5'10 & 6ft) 2 kids (age 7 & 10)
-we don't eat in the trailer, have a quick set up dinning tent where we eat (not enough room for 4 to eat in the trailer).
-our kids share a bed
-we share a bed
-we pack the fridge/freezer full of meals (in ziplock bags as they lay flat & can pack lots) we've cooked & frozen at home, so our camp time is spent relaxing as much as possible
-we also pack our bikes in the trailer (on the rear gaucho reclined)
-its cozy, but most of our time is spent outside
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:24 AM   #42
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I know how you feel. I'm about ready to give up on the A/S. I made a mistake with the Jayco and now I'm about to make a mistake with the A/S. I've been trying to find the right travel trailer since November 2008 and it is getting old.....

Very depressed, right now!
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