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Old 11-23-2015, 04:40 PM   #15
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Wow! Larry has gone 114,000 miles without replacing brake pads. Greg, your post has been instructive for those of us who already have the 2500 w/Cummins. Nice to have some good news after the 4 recalls I've had on my truck this year.
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:40 PM   #16
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How does an "anti-spin" differential play into this?
The 'anti spin' rear axle is a limited slip differential equipped axle. If one of the rear wheels starts to loose traction under power, the other rear wheel will engage and keep the truck moving (if that side has traction). It doesn't create a bind in the axle as much as a "locked" axle, which helps going around sharp corners.
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The "engine brake" on my 2016 RAM 2500 Cummings is one heck of a lot more effective than ECU-Tow Hall managed RPM brake system on my 2013 RAM 1500 Hemi.

Whatever RAM calls it I love the 2500's braking system.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:59 PM   #18
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I've got a 2015 Ram 3500 with the CTD and the 6 spd stick. When towing, I set the cruise at 63mph. In 6th gear this is around 1600 rpm. We run the length of the Appalachians from the time we hit northern Alabama until we get to northern New York State, and with the cruise control and auto "engine brake" engaged it runs our 17,500lb combo up and down the ridges at exactly 63 mph without downshifting or touching the brake pedal - and with an average of 14.5 mpg. You're gonna love it...!

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Old 12-05-2015, 07:21 AM   #19
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How does the PowerStroke engine brake differ from the Ram?
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Old 12-05-2015, 10:11 AM   #20
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I appreciate everyone's experience and advice. I have another question. I am very familiar with the 6 and 6.7 Powerstroke trailer tow mode (no exhaust brake ) when using on steep and curving roads ( when NOT towing or hauling a load ), on asphalt/concrete. I would have to turn off the trailer mode in many cases, again with no load, so as to not risk locking up the rear tires on WET surfaces.

The Ram has trailer tow and an exhaust brake. Is either these modes less likely to lock up the rear tires in the scenario I described above?
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Neither system is integrated into the anti-lock braking system so some wet and all ice conditions require disengagement.
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Old 12-05-2015, 11:42 AM   #22
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My dodge is older, '08 so only exhaust brake. When i first got it the dodge forums talked about the problem of using it in slippery conditions so of course i had to try it. Our road gets hard pack snow in the winter and sure enough unloaded, exhaust brake on, let off the throttle and the rear end would break loose. I don't that anymore.
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Wow! Larry has gone 114,000 miles without replacing brake pads. Greg, your post has been instructive for those of us who already have the 2500 w/Cummins. Nice to have some good news after the 4 recalls I've had on my truck this year.

Mine went over 120k on the OEM tires and brake linings. No EB. Still had life left in both. But why wait longer?

I'll eventually add an EB to mine. They're nice, but not necessary for trailers under 10k in weight.
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:03 AM   #24
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They're nice, but not necessary for trailers under 10k in weight.
Slowmover, your a guy who works/drives for a living I am surprised you would say this. Don't take offense but you must be a flat lander......
The exhaust brake is really a nice feature that give the operator control over the load being towed. Just last night I was towing a 4k load over some twisty, hilly one lane roads with extreme grades in the river hills of southern Ohio. Using the exhaust brake and the gear selector I could go down these hills with only working the accelerator and very minimal brake pedal. That is what I call controlling the load. Heck I use the exhaust brake and tow/haul mode just driving the truck solo in our steep hills here to save on the brakes.
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I'm repeating the advice given by Dodge. Up to 10k it isn't "necessary". Past that it is advised to have one.

Given that most here are vacationers, whether or not an EB is available is moot. Grade descents are still about controlled speed via proper gear choice.

If the EB quit working, what then?

As to the vehicles at work over the years, it is less "fun" to be without a compression brake. It's good practice, certainly. Always glad to have the engine brake when loaded. Siskiyou or Monteagle.
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An exhaust brake only applies force to the tow vehicle rear axle. Would the entire rig be under better control if all tires are contributing to braking?
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These are the three pages in my 2016 RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel Manual that pertain to the Exhaust Brake. There is no mention of a 10,000 pound threshold for it's recommended use. In fact they state that can be beneficial under normal operations without load.
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RAM Exhaust Brake Tips

It's in the bodybuilders upfitter guide.

Still nice to have, just not necessary under the 10k trailer threshold.
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