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Old 02-23-2016, 01:15 PM   #15
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Interested to see how the variable ride height option works out for folks. Lowering a tow vehicle seems like a great idea for highway use. Don't know if it hurts the numbers, but worth considering in the investigation. Pat
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Old 02-23-2016, 01:24 PM   #16
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I really have a hard time understanding some people's obsession with the payload as if the truck will fall apart or you'll be jailed if you exceed the number printed on the sticker by one pound.
Often with little concern about the qualities that make a vehicle handle, ride, and brake well. To mention a few.

Our Ram 1500 is rated to 1450 lbs payload with or without a trailer on the hitch. Without the Airstream and w.d. hitch most of it is carried over the rear axle, that's how it is rated and it handles and brakes very poorly.

With the Airstream and w.d. hitch that 1450 lbs (part of which is distributed to the trailer axles) it handles and brakes very well. Add another 400 lbs (part of which is distributed to the trailer axles) to the truck and it still handles and brakes very well.

We lose little sleep over payload ratings, and concentrate on the qualities, equipment, and truck and trailer ratings that actually make a difference.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:55 PM   #17
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one thing i would do is measure the actual tongue weight. you may be surprised at what it actually is. the bath scale and 2x4 method is a very accurate measure of tongue weight. If you feel the the trailer isnt loaded as it would be for a trip just add people to the front of trailer before you weigh it, so you are comfortable you are on the conservative side

my 34 ' 1994 classic has 9700 lb with tanks full and camper road ready. tongue weight 640 lb. it is not modified in any way so weights are pretty much factory.
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The Hemi power plant is lighter than the Ecodiesel accounting for payload disparity.
Regarding mountain towing mentioned earlier, my experience so far pulling over the Smoky Mountains in Tenn with the Ecodiesel was effort less, in fact I was surprised how easy the RAM handled those 5 & 6 mile inclines. My two previous diesels were in HD trucks & I admit the Ecodiesel does not have that kind of power but to pull a 25 or 27ft AS its a very adequate truck.
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Old 02-23-2016, 08:54 PM   #19
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Welcome to the Forum. I looked at the 2014 Ram 1500 Eco diesel for our 2014 25' FC.
Didn't like the numbers. Purchased a 2014 Ram 2500 Hvy Duty short bed.
10/14 mp/g towing, 18/20 solo.
ALL my concerns disappeared with the 3/4 TV.
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I've read your post about four times trying to understand why my mileage is better than yours with my '06 Ram 2500 with Cummins 6 liter. I tow a 34' Excella TriAxle and get 20-21 without the trailer @ 75-80 mph. On my last towing trip I got 17 mpg at around 70 mph. I've got a little over 75k on the Ram. I've got 9 more feet of trailer and I can't believe the three axles make that much difference.

I do have to say that the Excella is the best towing trailer I've ever had and I've towed a little of everything. I hardly know its back there at 70 mph.
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McArthur,
I forgot to mention I bought a gas engine.
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one thing i would do is measure the actual tongue weight. you may be surprised at what it actually is. the bath scale and 2x4 method is a very accurate measure of tongue weight. If you feel the the trailer isnt loaded as it would be for a trip just add people to the front of trailer before you weigh it, so you are comfortable you are on the conservative side

my 34 ' 1994 classic has 9700 lb with tanks full and camper road ready. tongue weight 640 lb. it is not modified in any way so weights are pretty much factory.
Awfully light tongue weight, ten to fifteen percent is recommended. Tows okay?
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I forgot to mention I bought a gas engine.
It all becomes clear now.
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tows well, sometimes too well , with the dodge 2500 cummins, find my speed creeps above reasonable if not paying attention. probable 300 or 400 lbs in truck bed.
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To paraphrase a USPS ad, "If it fits' it gets to go" with our setup. Obviously not a pallet of steel anvils. :roll eyes:

With our 2012 Ram 2500HD Cummins, there is space and weight allowance for all the firewood we want to bring to a large rally and extra chairs or what have you.

For us, this is the perfect towing combination with the 31' Classic. Keeping the rig at the posted or our self imposed 65 mph maximum speed works well with the engine is at it's peak torque point. I monitor all the primary and auxiliary gages for the engine and the tire pressure monitor and make adjustments to speed if necessary on really long steep climbs.

The other extreme is our 23D with the Mercedes ML320 and we have lighter stuff to keep within the weight limits. We can carry a Honda 2,000 watt generator, propane grill, spare propane tank, air compressor and a few tools associated with the hitch and a grease gun for the hitch.

We have found the rig is very relaxing to drive at 55 mph and takes the steepest climbs without over winding the diesel engine at 3,000 rpm in fourth while maintaining speed.

We do have a Hensley stinger for the Ram left over from the 25FB so it could also pull the 23D. The truck is nearly as long as the 23D.

So fitting the tow vehicle to the job is paramount.

I strongly suggest taking a test drive across the CAT scales of the trucks one is considering and get the real starting numbers of the "empty weight". The driver door post sticker gives the maximum ratings of the axles, load of the truck, the maximum trailer weight and usually a maximum combined towing weight.
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I decided to get the 2500 Cummins

After a lot of deliberation this week we decided to go with a Ram 2500 Cummins. Based on comments by Top, dkottum and others (thanks!), I feel confident I would have been able to tow my present setup without worrying about chugging up mountains or prematurely wearing bearings, etc.

That said, it seemed that I would not be able to tow much more than this with a 1500 ED. So the 1500 would be a long-term investment that may be under-equipped if/when I wanted to go with a longer, heavier AS, or put anything substantial in the bed. So there you have it.

We test drove a 1500 ED, 2500 Cummins and F-150, and I looked at specs and reviews for the other usual suspects. I really liked the ride and interiors in the Rams over the Ford, and I thought the Ford's aluminum body was too risky as a long-term investment.

So, that was my thinking. We found a great deal at Huntington Beach Jeep in Southern California. They had a Granite 4x4 Crew Cab with just the right options for an excellent price, so I'm pretty happy. The 2500 certainly feels like a big-ass truck right now (driving around LA I haven't seen a single vehicle with a higher ride yet, besides semis), but I think in a few weeks I won't care.

Learning how to read the blind spots is my current task.

I leave tomorrow to go pick up my 25' Eddie Bauer.

Thanks again for all the help.

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