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03-15-2011, 08:52 AM
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New Member
1963 22' Safari
New Braunfels
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Questions - Ordering 2011 F150 Ecoboost
Greetings all!
This is my first post...been reading these pages for months.
Back in January, bought a 1963 Safari that I'm having totally redone - should be ready by mid-summer. (fingers crossed!)
Now...gotta get the TV. I've decided to order a 2011 F150 SuperCrew with the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost, 3.73 axle ratio with tow package, etc.
So...here are my questions...
1) What bedlength will be best? The 6.5ft or 5.5ft. I'm thinking the 6.5 will give me more room, but I read on a Ford forum that the shorter bed might be better for towing..any thoughts?
2) How many miles should I break the truck in before towing? I see that 1,000 is a consistent thought...
3) Hitches - looking at the Reese Straight Line Hitch High Performance Dual Cam Sway Control (from ProPride - don't think I'll need a PP but they have it where you can upgrade if needed). Thoughts on this?
Any other suggestions or thoughts are appreciated!
Can't wait to start STREAMIN'!!!!
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03-15-2011, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
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Greetings, KerryFO, and welcome to the forums! I'm sure you will find lots of opinions and tips here in our home!\
I'll give you my 2c worth (and that's really what it's worth):
1. I'd go with the longer bed. The idea is to have a tow vehicle that is less susceptible to being controlled by the trailer rather than the other way around.
2. Check with Ford on break-in. Some companies want it; others say it's not necessary.
3. Not even a penny's worth of info from me on hitches!
Lynn
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03-15-2011, 09:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Loretto
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Go with the longer bed. Its far more usefull. As for break-in, its best to put at least 1000 miles on it before you tow or use full throtle.
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03-15-2011, 09:50 AM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Welcome to the Forums and good luck with your new rig.
Pat
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03-15-2011, 10:48 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
Pulaski
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2007
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If you are ordering a Super Crew (I assume this is a crew cab) I would go with the shorter bed. This will give you more flexibility in parking and a tighter turning radius. With the crew cab and short bed you will have a longer truck than a standard cab with long bed. I had this same decision when I bought my F250. I went with the CC and short bed. Best decision I could make.
Your owners manual or dealer should be able to advise you on break in.
I use neither of these hitches. Instead I have a Blue Ox. With my setup it handles great but a F250 will be quite different than the F150.
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03-15-2011, 01:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Just throwing this out there - I'd make the decision on bed length based on maneuverability and bed utility, not towing stability. Keep in mind that you're towing a rather lightweight 1960s 22' Safari; any F-150 (especially a Supercrew) will have plenty of wheelbase here.
I'm not even sure I'd get the 3.73 gearing/max tow package - even a 3.5-liter Ecoboost F-150 Supercrew with the base 3.31 gearing and the "regular" tow package tows over 8000 lbs. (Of course, if you're considering a bigger trailer down the road...)
Tom
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03-15-2011, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
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My TV is a short wheel base because my wife drives it when we are not towing and we liked the swb better. I use the Reese straight line dual cam hitch and am very satisfiied with it. I tow a 25 and a 32 with it. lots of my friends use the Hensly. That is because one of them had a wreck they thought was caused by uncrontrolled sway, so they all bought them.
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03-17-2011, 07:56 AM
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New Member
1963 22' Safari
New Braunfels
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you to all those that replied! Your help is greatly appreciated....now I just have to twiddle my thumbs until my Airstream is ready!
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03-26-2011, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
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The rear overhang(distance from back wheels to hitch) is the same with both bed lengths.
Manual says 1000 miles before towing.
Al
Ps. I have one on order as well.
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03-26-2011, 01:15 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Best hitch is always cheap. Rear overhang (as above) only concern worth noting. But the longer bed is a lot more useful.
Good luck
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03-26-2011, 02:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2009
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Big mirrors that adjust from the inside. Mud flaps or Rock Tamers!!!!! Rear-window defroster. Bed liner. Bed cover. Steps. Serious mats. Spanner wrench. Breaker bar with a six-point socket for the lugs. Torque wrench that goes up to the truck tire requirements. High-quality tire pressure gauge. Transmission oil temperature gauge. Four-wheel drive. Lastly, get the towing package and the biggest V-8 you can.
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03-26-2011, 03:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
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You should be able to tow the 22' Safari with the package you have selected. I also suggest the V8 in lieu of the V6. Fuel economy will not be any better with the V6 and a V8 will hold up longer with the stresses of towing.
1) Bedsize, the larger the better for taking things with you. But larger= harder to manuver.
2) Follow the manufacturers instructions regarding the break in befor towing as a minimum, but more milage is better.
3) I have owned and personally do not like the dual cam system. I prefer the old type of load distribution hitch with seperate sway control. When an Airstream trailer the size of your 22' trailer is loaded properly, sway control is (IMO) not a big deal.
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03-27-2011, 07:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
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If available on the F-150 I would also add the snowplow option as it will add additional front end springs, shocks and a larger tranny cooler all for $80. I know you can order this on the F-250/350 but not sure on the F-150.
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03-27-2011, 01:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
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I would skip the "Snow Plow" package even if it was available. The front springs are not needed since the majority of the weight is still on the back axel - although with a weight distribution hitch you will be attempting to "project" some of that forward. Unless you were purchasing a camper that would reside in the bed of the truck (or were adding a heavy snow plow to the front) then those added front springs would only be "lowering the performance and handling" of the truck by adding that unnecessary capacity to the front suspension.
Same for tranny cooler - your new truck as configured from the factory is designed to tow - said rating built into the cooling of the existing engine package - unless you were going to be at 100% of your tow capacity (in this instance you have a comfortable margin) - even in the hot desserts uphill fully loaded, you will be fine.
Just because something is a few dollars more for what appears to be "more options & capacity" - unless your vehicle and "NEEDS" require said appointments, you may actually be taking away "performance & handling" from what your truck was originally designed for... .
Have Fun with your new truck!!!
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03-27-2011, 02:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KerryFO
1) What bedlength will be best? The 6.5ft or 5.5ft. I'm thinking the 6.5 will give me more room, but I read on a Ford forum that the shorter bed might be better for towing..any thoughts?
2) How many miles should I break the truck in before towing? I see that 1,000 is a consistent thought...
3) Hitches - looking at the Reese Straight Line Hitch High Performance Dual Cam Sway Control (from ProPride - don't think I'll need a PP but they have it where you can upgrade if needed).
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You are towing a very small trailer that I assume weighs about 4,000 lbs. I would buy a V8 with the 3.55 gears like mine. Gets good gas mileage whether you are towing or not, plus you've got plenty of umph to get up the mountain passes. Now your questions:
1. Buy the short 5.5ft bed, your trailer is only 22 ft long.
2. 1000 miles is what Ford recommends.
3. You only need a WD hitch. The truck has an awesome anti-sway capability. Just push the button.
I've owned my 2010 F-150 for close to a year now and love it. Best vehicle or truck I ever owned. Make sure your truck has the built in brake controller and get the built in rear step in your tail gate.
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03-27-2011, 07:02 PM
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New Member
1963 22' Safari
New Braunfels
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Many thanks again!
Thank you again to all those with recent posts! I'm gonna order my truck this Friday, and have taken all posts into consideration.
The forum has helped me to decide to get a 4x4. I'm just gonna go all out on it so I never have to say...I wish I would have gotten _____.
Can't wait! Thanks again for all of your input!
Kerry
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03-27-2011, 07:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
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I love our 2009 F150. One of the best options on it is the navigation system which includes a backup camera. It turns hitching up into an easy one person job!
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1997 34' Excella 1000
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03-27-2011, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Tow package comes with tranny oil cooler and additional engine cooling, heavy duty shocks and springs. With an 8 foot box everything is at the max.
Truck also has tranny temp guage.
Every option you add to the truck reduces the payload available.
Al
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03-27-2011, 08:41 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Laurel
, Montana
Join Date: Mar 2010
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I'm pretty sure all that are reccomending the V8 over the Ecoboost V6 may not know this V6 is twin turbo with 365 HP and has a tow capacity of 11,300 lbs. The max tow package does come with the integrated braking system and controller inside, along with extending mirrors.
Just picked mine up this week.
Greg
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04-08-2011, 09:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
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Greg,
So, have you towed the Airstream with the Ecoboost yet? If so, how does it do, and compared to what?
Anyone tow a big trailer with the Ecoboost yet?
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