Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-22-2007, 09:31 PM   #1
New Member
 
Currently Looking...
Aurora , North Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Question on Towing???

I would like to know if anyone is towing a 30' S/O Classic with a 2007 Toyota Tundra w/5.7 engine; 381 HP, 401 FP torque. I am considering this but would like input from someone who is towing.
__________________

__________________
World Travel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 12:15 AM   #2
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
hi world travel and welcome to the forums!

there are a few folks towing 30/slide units here...

most are using true 3/4 ton tow vehicles....

the tundra has a payload rating of approximately 1500-1600 lbs right?

well the tongue mass on a 30 slide is one of the heaviest made....

and will EAT ALL of the available payload IF anyone or anything is IN the tundra.

yes the tundra has great brakes and a nice engine, but it is NOT a 3/4 ton unit...

the rated towing capacity is too close 4 me, but the payload issue is a real deal breaker.

towing a 30/slide with any 1/2 ton horse is gonna be an issue.

my 34/without slide isn't much heavier than a 30/with, and i'm happy to use a 3/4 ton diesel truck.

cheers
2air'

jcanavera http://www.airforums.com/forums/memb...navera-56.html has the most posts and info related to towing a 30/slide unit...so search a bit and read.
__________________

__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 08:07 AM   #3
Site Team
 
azflycaster's Avatar
 
1975 25' Tradewind
Dewey , Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,127
Images: 62
Blog Entries: 1
I tow with a 5.7 Tundra and think it is a great truck. It's got a powerful motor and great brakes, but it is still a 1/2 ton truck. The classics with SO have a bunch of hitch weight (1K+) add to that the weight of propane, water and other stuff you will be pushing the limits of the truck. With an empty trailer and no payload in the truck you might squeak in under the limits, but is that how you want to travel?
__________________

Richard

Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
azflycaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 10:47 AM   #4
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,763
Images: 5
I concur with the others. You would be at the towing limits of the Tundra. This combo would not be within my comfort zone, but others are not as particular as I am. A 30 SO has a super hefty tongue weight which would not leave a lot of cargo capacity for the truck bed.

Brian
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 02:50 PM   #5
CLOUDSPLITTER "Tahawas"
 
ROBERT CROSS's Avatar

 
2003 25' Classic
Zanadude Nebula , WNY
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 11,153
Images: 1
Welcome...

Very capable truck......but.

Too close for comfort, I think most would agree, you really need that

payload capacity.

Good luck and keep us posted!!!
__________________
PFC.....

“After all these years the reason I continue to love Thanksgiving.....I still sit at the kids table.”
RLC

Sandra wanted to go to Cleveland on vacation,
but I’m the Husband, so we went to Cleveland.
RLC
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 08:21 PM   #6
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Andrew T's Avatar

 
2008 34' Classic
1960 17' Pacer
London , Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 955
Hi

I might be able to offer some assistance here as we have set up a few Tundra's. Do you already own the Tundra? If so what box and Cab does it have.

Andy
__________________
Andrew T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 09:46 AM   #7
New Member
 
Currently Looking...
Aurora , North Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Andy, thanks for your reply. Yes, I own the Tundra, but not a trailer yet. Am interested in 30' with slideout. The Tundra is 2007 double cab (not the max work cab) w/ 5.7 engine, 6 ft. box with towing package. I will be interested in your take on this. Reply to maxinecharles@embarqmail.com.
__________________
World Travel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 12:49 PM   #8
More than one rivet loose
 
thecatsandi's Avatar

 
Currently Looking...
Keymar , Maryland
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,754
Quote:
Originally Posted by World Travel
I would like to know if anyone is towing a 30' S/O Classic with a 2007 Toyota Tundra w/5.7 engine; 381 HP, 401 FP torque. I am considering this but would like input from someone who is towing.
This is going to be a problem.
Your 30 Slideout is heavier than my 31 Classic. I tow my 31 Classic with a F-250 Diesel. I towed it with a F-250 Gas. That was ok but the truck was under constant load. Flat and level the diesel is just humming along.

The wheel base is ok but the power was just not there.
__________________
Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball

Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud

thecatsandi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 12:54 PM   #9
ProPride, Inc.
Commercial Member
 
Sean Woodruff's Avatar
 
Grand Blanc , Michigan
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 618
Send a message via Skype™ to Sean Woodruff
Quote:
Originally Posted by World Travel
Andy, thanks for your reply. Yes, I own the Tundra, but not a trailer yet. Am interested in 30' with slideout. The Tundra is 2007 double cab (not the max work cab) w/ 5.7 engine, 6 ft. box with towing package. I will be interested in your take on this. Reply to maxinecharles@embarqmail.com.

If Andrew T can't offer any assistance then I would say no one can...
__________________
ProPride Hitch
"The Next Generation in Trailer Sway Elimination"
Grand Blanc, MI
Tu ne cede malis
Sean Woodruff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 12:55 PM   #10
USN/LAPD Retired
 
Safari-Rick's Avatar
 
2005 25' Safari
North Las Vegas , United States
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 850
Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
I tow with a 5.7 Tundra and think it is a great truck. It's got a powerful motor and great brakes, but it is still a 1/2 ton truck. The classics with SO have a bunch of hitch weight (1K+) add to that the weight of propane, water and other stuff you will be pushing the limits of the truck. With an empty trailer and no payload in the truck you might squeak in under the limits, but is that how you want to travel?
DiTTO

Been there, Done that !


Name:   econ_thinking.gif
Views: 512
Size:  1.3 KB
__________________
2007 Dodge Ram Quadcab 6.7L Diesel w/jakebrake

"Better to have more then you need, then need more then you have because you don't have enough!"
AIR #: 8129
Safari-Rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 01:02 PM   #11
2 Rivet Member
 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Kerrville , Texas
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 69
Towing a 30'w/so

I have a 2004 30'w/so and this is a heavy trailer when you get it ready to go camping. I had a 1994 F250 gas (460) when I bought the trailer. It did ok but would really labor in the Mtns. I now have a 2006 F250 with the 6.0 diesel what a difference. It handles any situation with ease.. You defiinitely need a 3/4 ton truck and the diesel to make your towing enjoyable!!
Richg
__________________
richg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 01:03 PM   #12
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
 
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
 
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
As others have said, you will be at the limit on tongue weight/pay load and IMO, you will be at the limits with towing horsepower. The consensus here on the forums is not to exceed 80% of your TV's towing capacity. Does a 30' Classic S/O do this?

I'm no expert by any means, but my personal $.02 is that in the Safari line, 25' is the border line for 1/2 ton tow vehicles and in the Classic line, well, they are heavier at all lengths and I personally wouldn't consider a 1/2 ton to be a comfortable towing vehicle for anything in the Classic line. That's my opinion and isn't gospel among anyone else on this forum.

Since you already have the Tundra (a great truck BTW), my recommendation is this: if you are close on the 80% and close on the payload and really want the 30' Classic S/O, get it if YOU are comfortable with the numbers realizing that you will trade tow vehicles long before you trade Classic travel trailers. The 30' is a good compromise size as far as not too long to handle for the novice and not too small for a couple or even family. The slide out will make it feel larger so you won't feel like you should have got the larger one and want to trade up in a year or two. With tow vehicles on the other hand, you will want to trade up in a year or two.

However, if you plan on using the trailer really often, or plan on frequent trips in the mountains, or plan on full timing, you might as well bight the bullet and go for broke and get a nice 3/4 ton tow vehicle and 30' Classic at the same time...you'll be glad you did.
__________________
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
http://streaminacrossamerica.com/
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 04:03 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
ZoominC6's Avatar
 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Colleyville , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,502
World Traveler,

Inquiring prior to purchasing your Airstream will save you inumerable headaches for sure. I tow our '04, thirty foot slide out with a 3/4 ton, 4X4, Duramax, crew and can assure you that it's most likely too much truck for the trailer. A 3/4 ton, gas, crew would suffice. The wheelbase rule of thumb for the trailer length would be perfect, the suspension not quite so hard on the Airstream and I'd have ample power. Having said all that, I wouldn't trade down because pulling the hills would be a bear unless I had a 411 rear end and a huge fuel tank. As is, I hardly know our Airstream is back there. Did I mention the Hensley hitch?

My opinion mirrors most of the others here. You won't feel comfy, safe or happy pulling the 30'SO with your truck which is a fine vehicle for most other activities.

Good luck with your research and impending purchase.
__________________
In dog years, I'm dead!
ZoominC6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 06:35 PM   #14
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,002
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
Dependent upon the year the trailer, the hitch weight is large. My slide out is around 1,200 lbs or so. I had to upgrade my GM factory hitch to a class V to carry that load. I'm pulling with a 3/4 ton GMC van, 6.0 liter V8 with a 4.10 rear axle. The big difference between the 3/4 vehicle and 1/2 is frame, brake, and wheel related. I can tell you when the road gets rough and you start dealing with the undulations of the road, that 3/4 ton chasis and components make the difference. I've pulled with a 1/2 van with a 27' Safari and it's amazing the difference in suspension and handling.

My towing capacity of the van is 9,900 lbs. and I can't imagine towing with anything smaller. Keep in mind that the 30' Slide is the heaviest trailer that Airstream makes on a tandem axle. My estimate is that without water and normal camping load of food and clothing, I'm pulling between 8,200 and 8,300 lbs.

Jack
__________________

__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another towing question ipso_facto Our Community 34 08-28-2010 04:47 PM
OH NO! ...Not another towing question blucloud Off Topic Forum 4 02-11-2006 06:29 AM
A towing question... sequoiacoast Hitches, Couplers & Balls 5 11-28-2005 06:00 PM
Towing Question joshua32064 Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 1 09-27-2003 07:19 AM
Another towing question Dbraw Tow Vehicles 18 07-11-2003 07:24 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.