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Old 01-07-2015, 09:16 AM   #71
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Yes, and if you put to high of a "tune" in the computer, you will start having engine failures. The first thing to go seems to be the head gasket, and the hot rodders all replace the head bolts with high tensile strength studs. After that, the torque converter and transmission seem to be the weak links. Like most all high performance mods, one thing leads to another, but most tuners have an "economy/towing" tune also. Most times this requires nothing else to be done.

Also most dealers will no longer honor your warranty if a aftermarket tuner is installed.

All this I have learned from reading the Ram Diesel forum.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:37 AM   #72
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You do not have to put in a " hot performance tune" for getting rid of the emission equipment. I checked into this and EFI Live can do any type of program you want.
If I was going to do this I was just going to keep it stock but delete the problem causing equipment.
Most rational people go for a few extra HP and efficiency with NO Smoke. Nobody writes "smoke" tunes anymore.

Yes - if you turn up the HP with a "hot performance tune" or a poorly written tune it can put extra stress on the head gasket or driveline components. There are considerations........
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:46 AM   #73
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Sounds like you said the exact same message I did, but in an argumentative way. Did you mean that?
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:07 AM   #74
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No intentions of being argumentative just trying to convey that a diesel tune doesn't have to be "hot" to make the truck run better. I wasn't sure if you knew about all the options out there. To me it can be very confusing.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:33 AM   #75
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No intentions of being argumentative just trying to convey that a diesel tune doesn't have to be "hot" to make the truck run better. I wasn't sure if you knew about all the options out there. To me it can be very confusing.
Yes, I have studied it, and even done a couple of them in the past. I've never gotten the mileage or power improvements that many claim, and you have to drive them over another 100,000 miles for it to pay in dollars, but the performance is a little better.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:52 AM   #76
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The engineers at cummins spent millions of dollars designing an engine for all around use and meeting the emissions .Spending 2500 more isn't going to make it much better,fact is it could cost you a lot more in the long haul and more problems.. My opinion ....?And experience... If it ain't broke leave it alone...
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:23 PM   #77
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Yep the engine is just fine by itself, it's the gov't add-ons that gives everyone the expensive check engine light headaches. The system used from 2007.5 thru 2012 has a few issues. It works fine if your out working the engine but can be troublesome when used as a casual driver. I am very diligent in how I use this truck (very minimal idling and no grocery getting) and I still got burned...
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:43 PM   #78
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Maybe my 11,500lb load is good for this truck, but I actually drive it like a grampaw because I normally get 10-11 mpg towing. I got better towing the 31' before I traded, so the 34 is definitely more load.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:58 PM   #79
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Frankly Steve I think you are worrying too much about the numbers. If it works and works well just enjoy the ride. Life is too short to worry about arbitrary numbers in a sales pitch!


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Frankly Steve I think you are worrying too much about the numbers. If it works and works well just enjoy the ride. Life is too short to worry about arbitrary numbers in a sales pitch!


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J., I'm beginning to think you are right. Not one thing the dealer told me the other day convinced me the new truck's weight and towing numbers should be so radically different than mine.

I'm far from being an automotive engineer, but I've been towing travel trailers with various vehicles since the 70's and the rig I have today does much better than some I had in the past that were well within the manufacturer's limits.

I've actually been told by a manufacturer's rep that they typically raise the numbers from the first versions of a "family" of vehicles to improve the sales and compete with other manufacturers.
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Crispy boy you are right no idling ,or grocery getting,I try to just drive mine towing, or on a road trip,so far only one oxy sensor,in 85000 miles
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TJ, Have you had to have the EGR system cleaned yet?
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No I have not cleaned the egr system,every seems good other than the oxy sensor,.
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I read the '12 models will get a check engine light at 56,500 miles and the EGR system must be disassembled and cleaned, so just wondering if you had that also.
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