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04-28-2014, 12:39 PM
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Question for Ford Excursion owners
I'm looking to purchase an '07 or '08 Excursion for pulling a 27FB. Did Ford have a factory towing package for those years or was it maybe even standard for the Excursion? If not, have you added anything for your own purposes (e.g. transmission oil cooler, integrated brake controllers, etc.)?
Just curious what I should be shopping for before I get in too deep. Thanks for your insight!
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04-28-2014, 01:14 PM
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Rivet Master
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Do you mean Expedition, or the extended length Expedition Max or EL?
The Excursion ended production in 2005.
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04-28-2014, 01:26 PM
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The Ford Excursion was produced from model years 2000 through 2005. They were a 3/4 ton SUV offered with either a gasoline or diesel engine. Every on that I have ever seen was set up to tow.
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04-28-2014, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master
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If you are looking at an Expedition pay attention to the rear ratio. You will want at least a 373 not a 342.
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04-28-2014, 01:50 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
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No such thing as an 07-08 Excursion. Production ended in late 05 with a few very rare 06 models.
V10 4:10 rear end is desirable but not common. Diesels come 3:73 standard I believe.
A desirable addition is the 6.0 td cooler in place of stock. Rear swaybar if not equipped. The only towing option were the bigger tow mirrors. All have a 10k hitch and wiring.
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04-28-2014, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
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The Excursion did have a tow package model that had the towing mirrors and the 4:30 rear axel at least with the V10 engine option. The 7.3L Diesel I believe came with the 3.73 axel. I have the V10 with the 4:30 rear end and the extendable towing mirrors. A buddy has the same Excursion with the 3:73 road gears and the standard mirrors. The V10 3:73 gets better gas mileage and probably won't do as well in the mountains. I think the tow package also added an external trans cooler. Some of the newer Diesel Excursions had the dreaded 6.0L. 2005 was the last year. The Excursion was built on the Super Duty F-250/350 truck chassis and has the same running gear. The springs are softer than the pickups but that can be fixed if it is an issue but it is really not an issue.
The Expedition is based on the 1/2 truck chassis and is not as rugged as the Excursion. Both get crappy mileage with the gas engines. I picked up my Excursion for $7000 so I can buy a lot of gas for that. You got to consider the total cost per mile not the just the MPG when buying these things. A Diesel may get 15 MPG towing but a new one of those is $50k plus about 2 or three times the maintenance costs. A used diesel can be had but repairs can put you in the poor house. A diesel does have more torque but you the gas engines will still get you there.
Perry
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04-28-2014, 02:10 PM
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I'm sorry, I meant Expedition!
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04-28-2014, 05:59 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
The Excursion did have a tow package model that had the towing mirrors and the 4:30 rear axel at least with the V10 engine option. The 7.3L Diesel I believe came with the 3.73 axel. I have the V10 with the 4:30 rear end and the extendable towing mirrors. A buddy has the same Excursion with the 3:73 road gears and the standard mirrors. The V10 3:73 gets better gas mileage and probably won't do as well in the mountains. I think the tow package also added an external trans cooler. Some of the newer Diesel Excursions had the dreaded 6.0L. 2005 was the last year. The Excursion was built on the Super Duty F-250/350 truck chassis and has the same running gear. The springs are softer than the pickups but that can be fixed if it is an issue but it is really not an issue.
The Expedition is based on the 1/2 truck chassis and is not as rugged as the Excursion. Both get crappy mileage with the gas engines. I picked up my Excursion for $7000 so I can buy a lot of gas for that. You got to consider the total cost per mile not the just the MPG when buying these things. A Diesel may get 15 MPG towing but a new one of those is $50k plus about 2 or three times the maintenance costs. A used diesel can be had but repairs can put you in the poor house. A diesel does have more torque but you the gas engines will still get you there.
Perry
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Some of the newer Expeditions do come with the tow package. We have a 2007, but I am not sure if we have it or not. I keep meaning to ask dealer.
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04-28-2014, 06:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
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When I purchased my Expedition I made sure to get the tow package. At the time it added pre-wire for a trailer controller, the 3.73 rear end, and a transmission (or bigger) cooler and maybe a larger radiator. Look in the owners manual for a description of the option then look for the parts.
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04-28-2014, 09:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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You can find what was in a Ford when built if you go to
OptionCodes.com
Both Ford and Chrysler codes are there.
GM pure that list in the glove compartment. Not sure where Ford puts it.
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