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Old 08-12-2012, 07:29 PM   #15
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Bypass the 3/4 and go straight to 1T. There is no real difference while running solo (the overload leafs are not in contact the main springs when empty), and the additional payload may be welcomed with a big TT (the TW, even after WD adjustments) and loaded for fulltiming.

I have a 3/4T and would get the 1T were I to do it again. The 3/4T rating really is obsolete as there are 1/2T trucks with the same or higher payload capacities.

As a pickup is a badly compromised TV in the first place -- and a pickup is chosen only for payload capacity, in main -- get the one that can do the most.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:49 AM   #16
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Thank you much, Flying Gypsies. You are soo right. There are more Longhorns on this lot than in the country. I know, I looked. This has educated me on pricing.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #17
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REDNAX,

I think you are on to something. When I was looking at the 12 Ford 150 EcoBoost, it had a paylood almost equal to the Ram 2500. Experience from this forum states the the 2500 is a excellent match for the 30' classic and I have noticed that the price for the Ram 3500 is the same as the Ram 2500.

I just don't know what to think. I would like to explore this option to cover all bases, even if I eliminate it. We are looking at the 30' Classic @ 10,000 lbs. I like the idea of more towing capacity, but I read about concerns of the Ram 3500 may rough-up the Airstream because of the rigid frame and what about poor gas milage?

I would appreciate your opinion.

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:41 AM   #18
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If you're concerned about the "rough ride" thing for an Airstream towed by an HD truck, you can get an AirSafe hitch to smooth out the ride for the trailer at least.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:26 PM   #19
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I can tell you that we towed our 30' classic up the mountain to Boone NC from Hickory ( if you haven't been that way, it is a pretty steep grade) and Passed people on the way up- never a power issue with our 2500 towing the classic. Hope this helps...
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:10 PM   #20
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Thanks guys. It seems to get better all the time. We are about two months out before we start searching for the best deal on our trailer. Once that's done, we will order the truck right-away. We hoping to be able to hold out for the 2013 Ram 2500. Very disturbing news that their availability. Some say, as late as January 2013. Will definitely post when the time comes.

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Hi Freedomrider,

I think I've read on another VERY good informative site. www.cumminsforum.com that the '12 model year will be produced through Decemember '12.
I think many have speculated (mechanics getting training for it for future model ? but nothing official from Chrysler yet that I am aware) ...and are pretty certain that the '13 model year on the 2500, 3500 (non CC) will be manufactured using the DEF/Urea (diesel emission fluid additive/system) for the first time. This may or may not be something you want and maybe you've already done your research, there are pro/cons and opinions of whether you want to have to add the DEF fluid and expense/have another system on the vehicle to maintain or like '12 model year through '07.5 just drive it without the DEF fluid worries and possibly with less MPG than the newer model.

I do enjoy this '10 Ram with the Cummins Engine very much.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:12 AM   #21
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Flying Gypsies,

What is your "Gear Ratio" on your 2500 and what is your gas milage towing and not towing. BTW, I feel very comfortable with the 2500 after all the research I done.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:36 AM   #22
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The 2500/250 models of truck will beat the Airstream up as much as a 3500/350 would as the extra capacity of the 3500/350 only comes into play when the helper springs are in play (as in there is enough weight compressing the rear springs that they are engaged).

I don't buy into this Super Duty / Heavy Duty trucks beat up on the Airstreams more than a 1500/150 idealogy - but if you so desire to believe that, know that a 2500/250 will have the same impact as a 3500/350 on your Airstream.

As for purchasing a new truck - take a Ford Super Duty 250/350 out for a spin, when I was shopping for trucks I looked unbiasly at all three brands and found for me, the Ford Super Duty was the hands down winner...
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Oh, and one more thing...

At the end of the day - all three manufacturer's trucks are pretty damn nice, just find the one that you like the best as you really can't go wrong with the recent releases from the manufacturers - the modern diesel truck has evolved quite nicely, especially over the past few recent years....
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:10 AM   #24
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My brother just purchased a 2012 Dodge Laramie 2500, crew cab, long bed with the diesel engine to tow his boat. One tow with my truck and he was ready to get rid of his old money pit.
He test drove the 2500 vs the SRW 3500 and there was a difference in the ride. The only differences between the trucks is the spring pack. I tow a 30' Classic with my 2009 Dodge 2500 and the ride is smooth. There are no issues with the trailer popping rivets. The 2500 is plenty of truck for towing and whatever you want to throw in the bed.
The shortbed has a 34 fuel gallon tank.
The longbed has a 35 fuel gallon tank.
Axle options are 3.42, 3:73 and 4:10. Each ratio has a different towing capacity. All will work with any Airstream. The 3:73 is what you will typically see.
The manual transmission only has 650 lbs of torque. The automatic has 800 lbs of torque. My 2009 has the 6 speed automatic and only 650 lbs of torque and pulls the trailer with EASE! This upgrade was more than just a software change. I believe the harmonic balancer and torque converter was also changed for the torque upgrade.
You will love the integrated exhaust brake and transmission braking.
The integrated brake controller was upgraded in 2011 to handle Electric over Hydraulic brakes along with more precise control between light/heavy towing.
The reason why Dodge is slow on the 2013 roll out is because the emission system will change Jan 1, 2013. The 2500 and 3500 trucks will get the DEF fluid system that is used in the 3500, 4500 and 5500 cab and chassis trucks. The 2013 could possibly get 1 or 2 mpg more than the 2012 due to this change. Dodge has used this DEF system since 2007.5 so it works pretty well. It is a good time to buy a 2012 as my brother did pretty good on his deal.
I also agree with JFScheck - all three manufactures are putting out a nice product.
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Nicely explained.
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When we are towing, we get about 14mpg- we always use the "jake brake" as were recommended to do this to keep exhaust system clean- we have an aluminum rack on the truck and most of the time have canoe on rack so this eats into gas mileage. BTW- this mileage is by EVIC and actual math. We have the middle gear ratio and we drive 65 or under- if over65, mpg decreases.
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REDNAX,

I think you are on to something. When I was looking at the 12 Ford 150 EcoBoost, it had a paylood almost equal to the Ram 2500. Experience from this forum states the the 2500 is a excellent match for the 30' classic and I have noticed that the price for the Ram 3500 is the same as the Ram 2500.

I just don't know what to think. I would like to explore this option to cover all bases, even if I eliminate it. We are looking at the 30' Classic @ 10,000 lbs. I like the idea of more towing capacity, but I read about concerns of the Ram 3500 may rough-up the Airstream because of the rigid frame and what about poor gas milage?

I would appreciate your opinion.

Thanks
Stick with the 1T. The towing capacity is the same for conventionally hitched trailers, the question is then about payload capacity. As to increasing the wear on an A/S I have no opinion (I don't own one), but one should have the hitch rigging dialled in as closely as possible for any trailer brand/spec.

Fuel mileage is what you make of it. One can do better if one is serious. My year of Dodge has outstanding fuel mileage and I bettered that, first, by reducing the number of miles driven to achieve the same ends (trip planning), and, second, did a better job of driving the reduced miles (never idle and never stop). A pickup is not a car. Not as fast off the line, nor does it stop as easily. Don't drive it like a car. Or a half-ton (which is a car). I can pretty well pay for the fuel on a 5000-mile vacation in this manner due to savings the rest of the year.

Fuel mileage is a very good reason to have other than a pickup as a TV.

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Hey Gang,

We are about to close the deal on a 2011 Ram 3500 Lariat we found 3 days ago. As always, we've been doing all the research we can to learn & make an educated move. Although I'm late in joining this thread, I also would like to say Thanx to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge & experience here.
It'll be a massive upgrade from our '98 Chevy 1500 (money pit) & we agree, it'll most likely be the last truck we buy. We are mid-transition, becoming Full Timers May 15, 2013. Currently selling off various cars, bricks & sticks. YaY!!
Thanx again y'all!!
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