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Old 12-30-2014, 11:59 AM   #29
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I think the TOPKICK with the box bed would be some kind of awesome overkill. You wouldn't even need those pesky mirror extensions...and you can polish your roof without a ladder.

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Old 12-30-2014, 12:57 PM   #30
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With you 25'er, unless you really otherwise want a pick-up, I would look at SUV that's beefy enough to pull your AS. The new Dodge Durango would easily handle your AS and also serve as a more comfortable pleasure car. In 1955, my dad pulled his 22' AS with a 1951 Chevy six banger that put out about 96 HP. Mom carried two cast iron fry pans, weeks worth of clothing, food and 5 of us in the car. It was no big deal to travel at 55 to 60 mph despite not having a decent hitch. The point being that a dually is pretty unnecessary.
I'm blessed with the mother of heavy Airstreams, 34'er S/O, that must have 2000lbs. of full-timing junk on board. My 7.3L Diesel Excursion 4X4 handles it just fine. After having my first flat on the rear of the Excursion, I've decided to put tire pressure sensors on the AS and Excursion. Tooling along at 65mph with other motorists pointing at the rig isn't the best way to be alerted to a tire issue, so make sure that your choice of a new tow vehicle has tire sensors. Yea, a dually might create a little safer situation with a rear axle blowout, but every mile you move the extra tires down the road is more expensive

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Old 12-30-2014, 02:22 PM   #31
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This year we traded down from an F350 6.4L long bed dually to an F250 6.7L 4x4 short bed to pull our 25' FC. The shorter wheelbase makes backing and maneuvering in a tight campground easier, and I have a better shot at finding a parking spot when I'm not towing. I almost never used the F350 to commute to work, but I'm putting a lot more miles on the F250 as it is easier to drive in town and is a lot nicer overall.

The F350 was also not 4WD, and tended to get bogged down when driving on a soft or slick surface. I went from ~4000lbs of payload to ~2000, but that is still plenty for what we carry. Both trucks have way more torque than I really need for a 25' Airstream.

The F250 is taller than the old truck, so it's a bit harder to climb into and I had to drop another notch on the hitch. I sometimes miss the 8 foot bed when I need to haul brush, but I'm willing to give that up for a more maneuverable truck.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:22 PM   #32
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We are possibly a bit under powered but find that the 2000 Tundra 4.7L dragging our 25' Safari seems to work well enough. Gotta put the transmission in 2nd gear for ascending most 5%+ grades but can keep speed up to 50-55 mph even on 7% grades without over-revving engine. Steeper grades require a slower rate of climb. Never overheated in 7500 miles including three passes over Continental Divide.
Here's the payoff - it is an old truck with low miles (81K now) which we inherited. AS is a '97 which we got for a song.
Cheap full time digs indeed!
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:27 AM   #33
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I pull my 1978 31' with my 1999 GMC Sierra 1/2 ton with standard tow package as purchased new from the dealer. Have run several thousand miles with no problems.
Trailer brakes must be set up to stop the trailer, the tv should not be the main stopping power.
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Old 12-31-2014, 09:18 AM   #34
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I am pulling a new 25FC with a new Dodge Ram 1500. I put 5000 miles on it in the last six months with no problems. It tows like a dream. My previous TV was a 1 ton Ford dually diesel. It was an expensive pain in the neck. The Dodge rides like my Lincoln Towncar and has the power to handle Donner Pass with ease. You do need to pay attention to payload.
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Old 01-01-2015, 05:22 AM   #35
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Towing with a 1/2 ton TV

Several of you kind folks mention you tow with 150 or 1500 1/2 ton vehicles. As I see it they are only available in gas engine option. I'd be real interested in what kind of mileage you get towing with gas. My first tow was a rental trailer and I towed it with my 1/2 ton gas SUV AND SWORE I'd never do it again. I can't recall what I got in MPG then but power was lacking,,on steeper grades my speed would drop to 25 MPH and the engine sounded like it was going to have a stroke. Diesel has been the answer for me since . Any input is appreciated.
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Old 01-01-2015, 05:41 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by B_Pi View Post
Here's the payoff - it is an old truck with low miles (81K now) which we inherited. AS is a '97 which we got for a song.
Cheap full time digs indeed!

Yessir!!! Love it when you get a deal!

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Old 01-01-2015, 05:43 AM   #37
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Dodge offers a half ton diesel option. Toyota, Nissan to follow I have heard. Peace, jim
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Old 01-01-2015, 05:45 AM   #38
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Another minor point. Not all one tons are duallys, but all duallys are one tons, from my observations. Peace, jim
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Old 01-01-2015, 06:00 AM   #39
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The diesels in 3/4 ton trucks will pull an AS like it is almost not there. And, in stock form...maybe 12-14 mpg. A dually, mainly to have more load carrying capacity in the bed, possibly a bit more stability in wind, but I would suggest a loss of 1-3 mpg, or increased cost of probably 20% at a minimum.

My Dodge is a Crew Cab, Long bed, and with ball hitched in place it measures nearly 22 feet long. I think long is better as it will tend to decrease any sway.

Also, with diesel one can install additional fuel tanks, not really practical with gasoline (too dangerous unless a sophisticated fuel cell system is used) and the combination of better fuel mileage, more fuel capacity reduces time wasted in refueling.
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Old 01-04-2015, 06:23 AM   #40
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My '91 34 foot would have it's way with a 1/2 ton but my '06 Ram long box 3/4 handles it better. I was thinking that a 1 ton would be even better but instead upgraded the shocks and got a Hensley Arrow hitch off of Craigslist and now it pulls great.
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:34 PM   #41
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If were sticking with opinions, consider one from an ASE master Technician and Automotive Instructor. I commend you for using a truck that is over kill. It may seem a bit much at times to handle, but I encourage people to aim high. buying a machine that can tow 7600 does not mean that you should buy a 7599 pound trailer. if you "need" a 1/2 ton buy a 3/4 ton. if you "need" a 3/4 buy a 1 ton. and if safety is a consideration,( which it should be) get a dually. thank you for not towing a 25 footer with a Tacoma From one motorist to another.
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Old 01-13-2015, 06:52 PM   #42
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Pros and cons of a dually vs single wheel tow vehicle.

Pros for a dually is more rubber on the ground, run flat capability on the rear axle. For very heavy loads the extra weight capacity is a plus, not too important with an Airstream in tow.

Single wheel advantage is less rubber on the ground ($tires), more tire and wheel choice, and generally smoother ride.

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