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Old 04-11-2016, 04:26 PM   #295
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Not much to tell: 2013 Touareg Sport TDI w/tow package (no other options) in one of the 5 shades of gray available. 2015 AS Sport 16 (butter ultraleather & microwave) with no mods to-date.

Thinking about a WD hitch with ~400 lb bars - but still pondering the best approach for us.

Also thinking about dual batteries, rear bumper, solar panels, power inverter, 1000W generator... but just thinking at this point since thinking is free-ish.

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Old 04-11-2016, 05:36 PM   #297
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PS - That Blue Metallic is one of the colors that we'd LOVE to find in a 2008-12/13 Cayenne S - but Porsche just made Waaaay too many in flavors of Black!!!! :-(
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Totally agree with you on the black color with Porsche - I'm a fan of white with the terra-cotta interior

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Old 04-11-2016, 05:38 PM   #298
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Not much to tell: 2013 Touareg Sport TDI w/tow package (no other options) in one of the 5 shades of gray available. 2015 AS Sport 16 (butter ultraleather & microwave) with no mods to-date.



Thinking about a WD hitch with ~400 lb bars - but still pondering the best approach for us.



Also thinking about dual batteries, rear bumper, solar panels, power inverter, 1000W generator... but just thinking at this point since thinking is free-ish.



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Oh free'ish is good - just wait until you want'ish


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Old 04-12-2016, 12:28 AM   #299
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Chiming in on this discussion...

Current tow vehicle is a 2010 Audi Q7 TDI. It has been pretty easy to tow our 19' Bambi CCD. We moved from the Midwest to Idaho a few years ago. On the drive out, the noticeable difference was left shifting than our 04 Touareg V-8 in the mountains.

Now waiting on delivery of a 2010 Touareg TDI with air suspension to add to the tow fleet. May be looking into a larger trailer as well.

With either the Q7 or the V-8 Touareg, we NEVER felt like we were underpowered or lacked braking capability. We towed without sway control/ WD and never seemed to have any issue while driving. However, both vehicles had air suspension, so that may have made a difference as well.

Looking forward to reporting on the 2010 Touareg as a tow vehicle.

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Not much to tell: 2013 Touareg Sport TDI w/tow package (no other options) in one of the 5 shades of gray available. 2015 AS Sport 16 (butter ultraleather & microwave) with no mods to-date.

Thinking about a WD hitch with ~400 lb bars - but still pondering the best approach for us.

Also thinking about dual batteries, rear bumper, solar panels, power inverter, 1000W generator... but just thinking at this point since thinking is free-ish.

Matt
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BTW - if you decide on the Hensley Cub, you can transfer it to a longer AS up to 6000# & 600# HW (600# bars).

Well dang my ole eyes - I thought it was blue!

I guess it's similar to the Meteor Grey Metallic on the Cayennes (maybe even the same color name for VW?), which we also like.

We like the tan/beige & grey interiors over black though, because black gets so much hotter in the sun in the Southwest & SoCal, & it shows dirt & stuff more.

But we may have to settle for a black interior, if everything else we want is on it - e.g.: paint color, tow option, rear camera with the Nav - & maybe a few other options like roof racks/rails, & my wife seems enamored with heated seats (which seems antithetical to too hot in SoCal!!??) - which are nice to have, but not necessary to our needs.

We're looking for used `08-12/13, so we get what's out there.

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Totally agree with you on the black color with Porsche - I'm a fan of white with the terra-cotta interior

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Hey Chris,

I'm actually restoring my ole `73 914-2.0 "914S" back to it's original Light Ivory with Beige (tan) interior, so it's back to the original color (current 1980 repaint to the 930 Anthracite Grey Met. in the pic below), of which I'm the 2nd owner since Dec. `75.

While we would certainly consider those same colors on a CayS with the rear camera &/or tow option, if in CA or nearby states, & <60k miles, preferably 30-50k .....

We'd really like to find a nice `08-10 in Marine Blue Metallic (see pic below, but not with the aftermarket wheels nor GTS/Turbo with the air
susp.), or a newer`11-13 in Dark Blue Metallic - either preferably with Grey or Tan interior - or those interior with Silver or Dark Grey Metallic.

They also had Jarama Beige Met. & Gold, Olive Green Met. with Beige/Tan which looks interesting, & maybe some other less common color combos.

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Hey Chris,

I'm actually restoring my ole `73 914-2.0 "914S" back to it's original Light Ivory with Beige (tan) interior, so it's back to the original color (current 1980 repaint to the 930 Anthracite Grey Met. in the pic below), of which I'm the 2nd owner since Dec. `75.

While we would certainly consider those same colors on a CayS with the rear camera &/or tow option, if in CA or nearby states, & <60k miles, preferably 30-50k .....

We'd really like to find a nice `08-10 in Marine Blue Metallic (see pic below, but not with the aftermarket wheels nor GTS/Turbo with the air
susp.), or a newer`11-13 in Dark Blue Metallic - either preferably with Grey or Tan interior - or those interior with Silver or Dark Grey Metallic.

They also had Jarama Beige Met. & Gold, Olive Green Met. with Beige/Tan which looks interesting, & maybe some other less common color combos.

Cheers!
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That's a rock solid 914 - as much as I love cars we're going minimalist in order to prep for our move back West.

Are you hell bent on a Cayenne from SoCal - seems like a ton of used and CPO are in the DC Metro. Also found quite a few on the Monterey peninsula.


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Hello everyone,

I am brand new to the forums (wave) and I am in the midst of considering an Airstream. However, even though I can follow most of the towing conversations I get confused when people start to talk about going over the ratings of the car.

I have a 2016 Porsche Macan S and am looking at purchasing an Airstream in the next couple of years (sooner if I find a great deal). However, I am confused on what I am reading on different forums as well as vehicle ratings.

I currently have a Macan S and I am trying to determine how "much" Airstream can I get.

When I asked my Porsche dealership on my Tow Vehicle ratings, he provided me the following information:

4410 is the max trailer weight, but you can tow 5,219 if you have trailer brakes. 441 lbs. for the tongue weight.

I am wondering the following:

1. Am I limited to the Airstream Bambi line (16 or 22fb) due to the tongue weight?
2. What would be the safest set up for my vehicle in regards to Sway Bars, Breaking systems, Weight Distribution, and do I need to re-enforce my tow receiver?

I am sorry for being such a newbie, however reading everyone's posts makes my desire to move from a Class A RV to an Airstream grow even larger :-)

Thanks in advance for the info!

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Hello everyone,

I am brand new to the forums (wave) and I am in the midst of considering an Airstream. However, even though I can follow most of the towing conversations I get confused when people start to talk about going over the ratings of the car.

I have a 2016 Porsche Macan S and am looking at purchasing an Airstream in the next couple of years (sooner if I find a great deal). However, I am confused on what I am reading on different forums as well as vehicle ratings.

I currently have a Macan S and I am trying to determine how "much" Airstream can I get.

When I asked my Porsche dealership on my Tow Vehicle ratings, he provided me the following information:

4410 is the max trailer weight, but you can tow 5,219 if you have trailer brakes. 441 lbs. for the tongue weight.

I am wondering the following:

1. Am I limited to the Airstream Bambi line (16 or 22fb) due to the tongue weight?
2. What would be the safest set up for my vehicle in regards to Sway Bars, Breaking systems, Weight Distribution, and do I need to re-enforce my tow receiver?

I am sorry for being such a newbie, however reading everyone's posts makes my desire to move from a Class A RV to an Airstream grow even larger :-)

Thanks in advance for the info!

Tara
Tara- with regard to size, you could get into as large as a 23FB according to what you have been told above. I suspect the brakes on the Macan are pretty substantial and you will have more than adequate torque to tow.

Although the 19' Bambi technically has a higher than allowed tongue weight, you may be able to get that down with some rearrangement that others have mentioned (ditch the spare tire, rearrange batteries, ditch one of the propane tanks).

I have never towed with a WD or sway control, which either means I have been lucky & stupid or the Q7/Touareg Air suspension has taken care of most of the tissues others might experience. Regardless, I'm not going to be much help with that part of the discussion.

Other good news is that there are a lot of people that get into a smaller AS and decide to trade up, so there are some good deals to be had out there. (might even be willing to sell you mine
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Other good news is that there are a lot of people that get into a smaller AS and decide to trade up, so there are some good deals to be had out there. (might even be willing to sell you mine
Justin, love the fact that you are thinking of selling yours! What model/year do you have?

I am going to look at the 23FB and its specifications just to learn more about it as I have no need for 2 propane tanks and I have already looked at what it would take to change out the batteries (even moving to the Lithium Ion).

As you probably can tell, I am a large pre-planner and like to know all my options first.
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That's a rock solid 914 - as much as I love cars we're going minimalist in order to prep for our move back West.

Are you hell bent on a Cayenne from SoCal - seems like a ton of used and CPO are in the DC Metro. Also found quite a few on the Monterey peninsula.

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Chris,

I'm looking nationwide on just about all of the usual online sites & the P-dealers, but most of the `11-13's are plentiful but well overpriced per NADA & KBB _ but they will eventually have todrop with the market as it's flooded right now with trade-ins, & the `08-10's have thinned out significantly since last Fall.

While I prefer SoCal for convenience, & anywhere in CA to stay within the legal protections for consumers & ease of getting a car into CA (smog is required & there's a `10 in SF area sitting for a month+ waiting on parts to pass smog).

However, I will travel out of CA for the right equipment & colors & miles/condition.

But I swear, almost everything out there now is freaking black!!!!

My 914 is actually solid at the longs & floors, but was stored since 5/85 due to a getting mashed F & R in a parking structure by a ditz, after I'd done a full on body & mechanical rolling resto in `80-83 before grad school for my MBA - so I stored it since then to do, wherein it did suffer some tin-worm damage even in my garage for 31 years!

However - being my 3rd car since my first in Fall `69 & 10 years as my daily/only & lots of memories - I want to get 'er back to showroom condition. That said, I'll be visiting with the guy who owns Auto Atlanta for a sanity check on that project vs. buying a better 914-2.0 in a Blue Metallic when I'm there in early May!

Cheers!
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Hello everyone,

I am brand new to the forums (wave) and I am in the midst of considering an Airstream. However, even though I can follow most of the towing conversations I get confused when people start to talk about going over the ratings of the car.

I have a 2016 Porsche Macan S and am looking at purchasing an Airstream in the next couple of years (sooner if I find a great deal). However, I am confused on what I am reading on different forums as well as vehicle ratings.

I currently have a Macan S and I am trying to determine how "much" Airstream can I get.

When I asked my Porsche dealership on my Tow Vehicle ratings, he provided me the following information:

4410 is the max trailer weight, but you can tow 5,219 if you have trailer brakes. 441 lbs. for the tongue weight.

I am wondering the following:

1. Am I limited to the Airstream Bambi line (16 or 22fb) due to the tongue weight?
2. What would be the safest set up for my vehicle in regards to Sway Bars, Breaking systems, Weight Distribution, and do I need to re-enforce my tow receiver?

I am sorry for being such a newbie, however reading everyone's posts makes my desire to move from a Class A RV to an Airstream grow even larger :-)

Thanks in advance for the info!

Tara
Hi Tara,

We actually considered a Macan S for our TV for our vintage kin 1960 Avion T20, but my wife wanted more cargo room in the back. So you might also consider getting a restored vintage AS, Avion, Silver Streak, etc. which would be as nice & usable as a new one, including TV & other comforts - but they weigh much less than the current counterparts.

Also, vintage trailers open up the world of vintage trailer rallies & events - in addition to the AS rallies etc. for newer "Silver Twinkies." Several of the posts on here are of "new" Cay/Treg/Q7 TVs with vintage trailers & they look as classy as a new AS. If you've not been to one, then go to the Vintage Camping Trailer magazine website, & look for one near you, or make a trip to the West Coast & combine a visit at one with Vacation!

The big Pismo Vintage Rally will be May 20-22, with a public open house to tour all 375-400+ vintage trailers on Sat. 10 a 0 4 p - & we'll be there, so feel free to drop by for a visit with my wife Jana & I!

For example - our Avion T20 is 21'-6" L (23' +/- with the Hensley Cub WD/AS hitch on there), & about 3000-3500# loaded & 542# HW including the Cub & 2x 30# LP tanks & Tekonsha RF brake controller/mounting plate - so easily within the Macan HW spec with smaller LP tanks & creative trailer loading as noted above by Justincase.

Also, Porsche may have a higher HW with a WD hitch than the 441#, so ask your dealer Tech to look up in their Factory Manuals for you (I know that they do with the Cayennes).

So just some other options to consider in your long term planning .... or maybe shorter term than you think!

Good Luck!
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