Originally Posted by dkottum
Tom, are you sure you cannot meet CA requirements with the Aero mirrors? I haven't measured it but they look to be out there as far as factory tow mirrors, and work well on our Ram. We were towing in CA last year and no issues raised.
Doug - it will depend on each rig - TV & Trailer - that one can see the last wheel + 200' min. behind the back end of the trailer & anything else on the back bumper - on both
Ohiobrits stated that he couldn't see the side of his trailer on the curbside of his trailer, & the side of the trailer isn't the test by law - so I'm not sure if he could see his rearmost trailer wheels + 200' beyond the end of the trailer.
When you were towing out here Doug, you probably also noticed a lot folks towing above 55 mph - yet that is also the law.
It all depends if you're caught over 55 or not, to get ticketed - & likewise with your mirrors, but if you're stopped at 65, then you'll probably also get the inadequate mirrors written up at the same time.
But besides the law - which was written for some very commonsense safety reasons - with ANY TV & TT rig using ANY mirrors (stock or add-on) - it just makes sense that you need to see BOTH sides of your trailer, it's wheels, & at least 200' behind your rig - whatever state you're in at the time.
So I do not think it's a good idea for folks to get on here & say they've used product "X" of any type, which has legal, safety &/or other issues & concerns with them.
I do know that the McKesh mirrors will meet the CA laws & give the needed visibility on most tow vehicles, but the Aeros & other clip-on mirrors may not - depending on the TV & TT rig specifics. Also note that - even though it's a 1960
Avion - they were built wider than most ASs of that era, so I have even more to see around.
Doug - The rented RAM 2500s & Ford F250/150 trucks with which I towed, all had the pull-out towing mirrors & they gave adequate vision, so I didn't use the McKesh Mirrors nor any clip-ons with them, so I can't speak to your RAM.
However, I did use the McKesh mirrors on the prior rented Nissan Pathfinders (all were the prior model truck body-on-frame based version), after a literally dizzying experience with a set of CW clip-on mirrors.
The McKesh mirrors & Hensley Cub etc. were all purchased after our 2nd trip with the Avion - 1st ABQ > SoCal with a rented tow equipped Ford F150 with bare ball, but it had internal sway control & pull-out mirrors; 2nd trip was with a rented Pathfinder, which was a white-knuckle ride on bare ball & needed extra mirrors. The 3rd trip onward with a Pathfinder & Hensley Cub + McKesh mirrors were a dream!
I didn't mind popping for the McKesh mirrors then, because we still planned to eventually get a smaller mid-sized SUV for our TV (initially I even played with the `86.5-89 Porsche 928s with a 4200+ lb tow rating
) - so I will use them on our Cayenne S, whenever we get it.
On a mid-sized & smaller SUV - the McKesh mirrors should go out far enough to get the needed rearward visibility within their range of adjustment, so they should likewise work on a full sized truck/suv like your RAM - if the clip-ons you have won't.
Also note that - even though it's a 1960
Avion - they were built wider than most ASs of that era & more like the wider ASs of today - so I have even more trailer to see around & back.