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Old 11-30-2015, 12:17 PM   #15
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A buddy has same 3/4 truck without 4x4 or Duramax. He gets 7-7.5 MPG towing where I get a solid 10.4 MPG... And I have the 4x4....
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:18 PM   #16
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I've got a Dodge Cummins and have been very happy with it. There is something to be said about being able to pass going uphill. Had a gasser and will never go back.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:57 PM   #17
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You're thinking is right on. The Fords you're considering are Navistar engines, I believe. We tow an '07 Classic 30', with an 06 Dodge, and it works beautifully. The Cummins with a Jake brake is a great combo, easy on truck brakes over 13mpg towing at freeway speeds. Just broke in at 100k, only problems have been front end related. Virtually all of the miles are tow miles, and the AS is the lightest thing we have towed.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:00 PM   #18
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You need at least a 3/4 ton diesel. The GM Duramax 2007.5 or newer is a good choice. You get the Isuzu engineered diesel. My 2008 turned 142,00 with no major repair issues. I have spent around $1,000.00 in repairs in seven years. It has never left me stranded waiting for a tow truck. Mileage towing my 30' International is around 13 to 13.5 MPG depending on terrain. A used 2008 Duramax should be in your price limits. The big 3 all make good trucks. Shy away from the Ford 6.0 diesel motor as it has some inherent problems. The newer Fords are very good. If you are partial to Cummins, a Dodge is the way to go. I would take the suggestion and peruse the diesel forums.
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:40 PM   #19
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Thank you everyone with all the awesome advice!

What do you guys and gals think about a 2005 or 2007 F250 that has had the 6.0 powerstroke diesel engine bullet proofed? It would be 4x4 with a crewcab to fit up to 4 people comfortably. I've been able to find some for around $20k and under with under 175k miles.
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:52 PM   #20
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An American-badged gas or diesel 3/4 ton with a crew cab will do the job. Gas power will cost you a lot less to buy and own. Forget the fuel mileage - a 3/4T is no economy vehicle no matter how you equip it. Put a cap on the bed and you can put a lot of stuff in there and reduce clutter in the trailer.

There are no 1/2 T pickups or SUVs on the market that would be up to the task, considering your 8800# trailer, passenger load, and the amount of stuff you will likely be carrying in the truck.

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I'm not so sure about that. If Andy from Canada can make a Chrysler 300 and little Jeeps suitable to tow a 34' AS, then most 1/2 tons can tow a 30' and below, with no trouble at all. I myself run an F-250 V-10 gas TV, and I have plenty of power and tow capability, but I wouldn't have any trouble towing our 30' Slider with a new F-150 3.5 Ecoboost and 3.55 rear end. No sweat.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:08 PM   #21
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The older Ford 7.3 was a great engine but hard to find with lower mileage. Mine is a 6 speed manual as the auto was not so good till later. The older Dodge 5.9 Cummins was great but needs some steering issues corrected and the auto trans not great. Duramax fine but some lad fewer issues as stated in earlier post. Check powerstrokehelp.com on the 6.0. Some have had good luck with the right changes. If you get used to diesel it's a bit hard to go gas but that's what I would do if it fit the budget better. I'm just hoping to keep my 02 7.3 for a long time. 3/4 ton probably should be a priority for your plans. I'm envious ...enjoy!
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:12 PM   #22
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I pull a 30' Classic about 1000 lb. heavier than your trailer with a Silverado 1500 with a 5.3 engine and it works great. I just looked in Kelly Blue Book and there was one at a dealer for $25,000. It was a 2013 with 12,000 miles and double cab. It was a 2 wheel drive a 4 wheel would be nice. This would be a good truck.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:18 PM   #23
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Thank you everyone with all the awesome advice!



What do you guys and gals think about a 2005 or 2007 F250 that has had the 6.0 powerstroke diesel engine bullet proofed? It would be 4x4 with a crewcab to fit up to 4 people comfortably. I've been able to find some for around $20k and under with under 175k miles.

That would be a very wise choice, and it would be worth your time and effort to include Bill Hewitt's PowerStroke Specialty in Buford, GA as a source. It would be a road trip, but you'd get a good truck if he happens to have what you are looking for. Their phone number is 770-904-0733.


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Old 11-30-2015, 04:36 PM   #24
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You'll get more opinions than you will ever be able to sort out. I had a Silverado 1500 gasser 2wd and pulled our 30' Classic with it. Stopping was my biggest concern. We traded for a 15 Silverado Duramax 2500 and would never go back. I have no idea what people are referring to about the high cost of driving a diesel. My oil changes are $45 at the dealer so I let them change it. I change the other vehicles we drive. Most modern vehicles are laden with electronics whether gas or diesel so working on them for other than routine maintenance is difficult unless you have the computer equipment that reads more than codes. I would suggest a vehicle that will keep your family safe driving and braking.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:44 PM   #25
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Small point...... Quote: "of course diesel is flammable, gasoline is explosive... "
Diesel is combustible, not flammable.
You can't light diesel with a match unless it is on a wick that allows it to get hot and exceed the flash point from the heat of the match. However diesel becomes flammable if and when it exceeds its flash point which is about 104 F, so on a hot day in the desert....smoking near a diesel Jerry can could be problematic.

Gasoline is flammable right down to sub zero temps and the post is "graphically right" it is so flammable as to be explosive.

I tend to agree that you need a heavy duty Gas powered truck for your circumstance. You need to consider as noted several times in this post, all the "stuff" you will want to carry and choose a vehicle capable of that load
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:39 PM   #26
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Noting that this vehicle will apparently be your daily driver, and that accounts for most of your driving, try driving some of the vehicles recommended here about town, every day.

We travel away from home 6-7 months a year so try to balance towing performance and everyday driving needs and comfort accordingly.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:21 PM   #27
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I use an old (2002) F250 V10 (gasoline) to pull my 2011 AS 30 Flying Cloud and it performed well in the Colorado Rockies last summer. Unless you know you will need the 4x4, they just add cost and and reduce towing capacity and mileage. I went for the extended cab rather than the crew cab, so I could get the long bed (more storage capacity) without having a rig too long to take into an indoor garage. Just some things to consider ....
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:53 PM   #28
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Wow, lots of ideas. Weigh your family and yourself and consider what you might be putting in the tow vehicle bed or inside the cab. Add it up. Then add 1000# to it. That is your payload figure per se and will determine if you can select a half-ton or not. Many can tow 8800# but will not meet the payload requirement unless configured specially. I know your advertised tongue weight is around 880 but mine is listed as 860 and it is actually 980 or so so I made it 1000#.

I can say that my half-ton is well-equipped but I do not think would meet your requirement. Rounding off people weight, including the occasional mother, it is around 500#- allotting 100# for a small but growing child and 150 for each female- 200 for you + 1000 tongue is 1500 with nothing else in the truck. If everyone is skinny you've got it made! There are half tons that exceed 1500# payload. Add about 60# or so for WD hitch (1560) and we move on to your stuff in the truck. My guess is that you will need about 2000# payload capacity or close to it for now and in the future. Ford has some XLT models with max tow that meet that requirement in new but used will be a hard find. Then there are the 3/4 ton trucks. Half tons are better daily drivers though. Shop for that high payload model and you will be fine. Fords have the payload rating inside the driver door on the tire sticker. Knowing what payload rating you need, you should be able to hunt for a good used vehicle.
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