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Old 01-16-2015, 11:03 PM   #15
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T2P, nice rig! Recall I almost bought your prior 28, and was quietly wondering at your choice of the EB150 to tow the 30' Classic, especially with the passes we have around here.

When you get the chance to hook up to the 2500, you'll know immediately it was a great choice. So effortless, and no worries. I love using the exhaust brake, very noticeable even on the Tiger Summit Hwy 18, where it eliminates the need to brake often.

The new GM's have really improved the interior, and that transmission has a well deserved reputation. Ya done good!

One tip - DEF fluid is cheaper and easier to get at the pump of truck stops rather than the dealer or an auto part store. The one in North Bend has it for $2.99/gallon, dispenses right at the pump.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:37 PM   #16
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In December, we decided to upgrade our tow vehicle from a 2013 Ford F150 to a 2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD Diesel.

We thought long and hard about upgrading to diesel, but decided to do it for peace of mind. We have a 30' Classic and felt it needed a bigger truck.

Our trailer is winterized, so we haven't taken it out yet. But we're looking forward to our first trip with our new tow vehicle.

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Hi again everyone,thanks for your comments.

Kelvin, the GMC has a 36-gallon fuel tank. I'm not sure how that compares to the Ford F250 fuel tank, it really wasn't an issue with us. Although having a 36-gallon fuel tank will be nice.

As for how the price compares to the Ford, I think it's comparable. It really depends on the options. With the Denali, it's basically loaded. We went through the Costco auto program, and then we negotiated a price even lower than that. There was a $2,000 rebate from the manufacturer and to sweeten the deal even more, we got a $600 cash card from Costco and a $400 visa card from the dealer.

Gary, we are thinking of getting the RockTamers. It's on our wish list. The truck does have splash guards as you can see on the picture, but not sure how that compares to the mudflaps though. We do agree with you about the payload! That was our biggest reason for going with a bigger truck. Nice to know we can load up the truck bed without worrying about payload capacity!

The truck rides nice! Very quiet and comfortable. Personally, I really like the interior of the GMC over the Ford, just personal preference. We really had no complaints with the Ford F150, we were very happy with it. It just didn't have the payload capacity we felt we needed.

We're enjoying the extras we got on the GMC - for example, we didn't have built-in navigation on the Ford. Also, it's nice that every door has a door handle to grab onto when climbing into the truck. The Ford didn't have one on the driver's side - you had to grab on the wheel.

And also, the exhaust brake was a feature my husband wanted. We test drove a 2014 Ford 250, but it didn't have exhaust brakes. However, I do believe the new Ford trucks now have exhaust brakes, but I can't say for sure.

One complaint - our navigation system doesn't work! Yes, it's covered under warranty of course. But we're still waiting for the part they need to fix it, and it's been 2 weeks. According to the dealer, they are not sure how long it will take!
Hi, I'm not a GM person, but I think you bought the right truck for the size and weight of your trailer. I am curious though, as to what was the payload rating of your F-150. Seems to me that too many people have bought F-150's without concern for the little yellow door sticker. Either way, I believe an F-150 is not enough truck for a trailer like yours.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:50 PM   #17
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Nice truck to bad about the color...... Just kidding......
It would be interesting to know what the payload is of your new truck compared to your ford?
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM   #18
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In December, we decided to upgrade our tow vehicle from a 2013 Ford F150 to a 2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD Diesel.

We thought long and hard about upgrading to diesel, but decided to do it for peace of mind. We have a 30' Classic and felt it needed a bigger truck.

Our trailer is winterized, so we haven't taken it out yet. But we're looking forward to our first trip with our new tow vehicle.

Here's a pic:
Nice! Looks like you got all the bells and whistles! I just traded in my 2006 F250 Powerstroke for a 2015 2500HD Denali Duramax. I love it. I spent a weekend wheeling and dealing driving diesel Ford, Ram and GMC and the GMC won out. The fit and finish of the GM was so much better than the Ford in my opinion.

I bought mine off the lot and it was just the basic Denali package with the Duramax option. I swapped my standard mirrors for tow mirrors that have yet to be installed. Also have mud guards to install. I had a camper shell put together and that went on yesterday. I am through the initial break-in and I'm 200 miles into the 500 mile towing break-in now. It tows like a dream.
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:43 AM   #19
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Lara Me, thanks for the tip about the DEF fluid, good to know! I see you live in Snoqualmie. What a beautiful city! Maybe some day we'll see you at a state park or local rally. We'll look for your 28' FC.

Bob and Doug- the payload rating of the our F150 was 1500# and the GM payload is about 2700#.

Doug-the color of the truck is Sonoma Red Metallic. What's not to like about that color!

Steve-what a beautiful truck! Very nice. You did good too. We've already put 500 miles on our truck, so we're ready to go. I'm curious how long before you get your tow mirrors. Our dealer spent days trying to find us a truck with tow mirrors. He finally found one in Yakima, then we had to wait another few days while he sent someone to go fetch it. I got the impression tow mirrors were very much in demand at that time.

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Old 01-17-2015, 06:50 AM   #20
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I, too, have a 2013 Denali, 2500HD, and use it with my 30ft FC-- we live at 7300 altitude, walks up the mountains no problem. Exhaust brake was an added feature that sures makes downhill a pleasure. Chose this model over my previous Ford because of the Allison transmission, very smooth.
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Old 01-17-2015, 07:48 AM   #21
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I'm interested in how the Allison tow haul mode works with the Duramax engine brake on the 2015s. Steep grades with my older 2500HD Duramax in the tow haul mode are a pleasure, hardly requiring any braking at all. The Duramax runs so much cooler in the tow haul mode, and the Allison won't let the engine over-rev. I'm wondering if manual applications of the engine brake might cause over-revs and less controlled stops than slowing down with the big disc brakes and the automatic Allison downshifts in the tow haul mode. Just curious. My five-year old 2500HD Duramax with 60,000 miles is such a great rig, I've been immune to new truck fever up to this point.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:25 AM   #22
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I don't think I have used the tow haul mode at all in mountains of the west. Use the exhaust brake any time I'm driving on the highway, better for any braking situation. But just have seen the ned with the FC25 I had for tow haul. Will try it when I get the Classic.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:50 PM   #23
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I loved reading about your purchase and envy you for making a decision to move forward with the 2500 Denali diesel. I am having a terrible time trying to decide on which truck to buy and I usually don't have a problem making decisions!

We are new AS owners; picked up our 2015 28 ft. FC in August. I originally thought that we would be fine towing the trailer with my Infiniti QX 56 (towing capacity of 8,900 Lbs). We also bought a Hensley Hitch for weight distribution and sway control (safety is a big issue). We have towed the trailer about 4,000 miles now and we are not comfortable towing this size trailer with our SUV. We began looking at trucks and I have not been able to make a decision on which way to go. This is not normal for me I usually study a problem gather information and then make a decision. Not so with this decision, it is a really tough with no clear right answer. We want to use whatever truck we purchase as a "daily drive around" vehicle replacing my Infiniti QX 56 so a comfortable ride is important. We like the 1500 GMC Denali but the 1500 does not have the towing capacity of a 2500. The size of the 1500 and its maneuverability are appealing but not the towing capacity. The 2500 has the tow capacity but it is large and from what I have been told it is cumbersome for driving around town on a daily basis. Then factor in the decision of whether to buy a large gasoline engine or a diesel engine it all makes my head spin. I can not seem to find a good answer to my dilemma. Safety towing is a very important factor, and being able to stop quickly and maneuver quickly if need be are important. I would love to hear other seasoned AS owners thoughts and suggestions on what to do. I don't want to make a costly mistake!
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:25 PM   #24
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Another Pandora's Box opened!!! There must be a quadrillion threads on tow vehicles.....all of the opinions are already here somewhere.
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:35 PM   #25
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I believe the 1500 Denali with the 6.2 and 8 speed has a towing capacity of 12000lb and up to 7600lb gvw Plenty for your 28ft.
Sorry to change the subject a bit.
Probably if you are going to use whatever truck you buy as a daily driver, then pick all the trucks that will comfortably haul your trailer and drive them as you would drive a daily driver???


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Good questions Ed. Let me give some background on my experiences with tow vehicles. I towed SOB's with my old chevy 3/4 ton for years. In 2004 I bought a new GMC Sierra 1500 for a lot of the same reasons (better ride etc). I found it to be "adequete" for towing my 2007 25' AI. I wasn't completely satisfied though with the stability of the overall package. The short bed GM trucks also had a 26 gallon tank. In 2008 I decided to step up to Duramax 2500 crew cab long bed. I have never been sorry. The Duramax pulled my 25' AI like it wasn't there. The extra stability when passed by 18 wheelers was comforting. In 2014 I purchased a new 30' AI. There is no way in my opinion that the 1500 is suitable for towing a 30' AI with a gross of 8800 pounds.
I use my Duramax as a daily driver around town. I leave our sedan for the wife. The truck is hard to park, so pick your spot. Park further out and walk. Something we all probably need to do. I avoid parking structers when possible. If I have to, I just go to the roof and select a spot I can pull straight into and back straight out. I have not felt like these minor modifications to my routine are an inconvenience.
I plan to step up to a 2016 TV this fall. Some of my friends have Fords. I like them equally as well as my Duramax. Both have their pluses.
I am currently shopping for mudflaps to keep the road dings down on my Airstream. I read in a post that the Rock Tamers came with a flyer that said not to use them with Duramax TV's. Apparently not enough clearance between the exhaust and the mudflap causing heat damage to the Rock Tamer. I use a Reese Straight Line hitch. The Pro Pride may provide the necessary clearance.
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Steve-what a beautiful truck! Very nice. You did good too. We've already put 500 miles on our truck, so we're ready to go. I'm curious how long before you get your tow mirrors. Our dealer spent days trying to find us a truck with tow mirrors. He finally found one in Yakima, then we had to wait another few days while he sent someone to go fetch it. I got the impression tow mirrors were very much in demand at that time.

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Yolanda, Thanks! Besides the initial 500 mile break-in, there is a 500 mile towing break period too once you start towing. It's described in the manual on page 9-67.

I don't know how long it will be before I can get the mirrors installed. At this point if installed, all of the power components would work except for the amber lights on the back. GM is working on fabricating a a standard-to-tow mirror electrical connection to do this. According to my dealer there is a very high demand for the tow mirrors like you said, so they are confident it will happen quickly. They have two other people waiting for this as well. In the meantime, I bought a $50 pair of tow mirrors to use, I'll sell those on Ebay when the other mirrors are installed.
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Does it come with an integrated trailer brke controller? Is your wheel base 154"? The Ford F-150 Supercrew with 6ft bed is 157" so the GMC shouldn't be any more difficult to park. Is the exhaust brake an option on the diesel?

Just looking on Cars.com and there is a preowned 2013 Denali with color coordinated color camper shell, tow mirrors and step bars. 40k miles Has there been any major changes since 2013?

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