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Old 01-21-2011, 08:18 AM   #41
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I already know....Don't make start another picture post....

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I just can't wait for my VIN so I can download my window sticker and post - after that I'll have another 30 days at minimal - but before you know it I'll be posting pics right along with Shane!
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:40 PM   #45
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Got my VIN this week and downloaded my window sticker from Ford - ordered a ARE tonneau cover today - but after measuring the height of my Yamaha EF3000iSEB generator - I think it won't fit under the tonneau cover and now gotta go with an ARE topper.

Question now is which one? Cab Height (highest quality) or sloped roof (shed window up and over Airstream)...

I guess there could be worse problems to have - BTW the Yamaha generator was used today for 4 1/2 hours - Love It!!!
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Got my VIN this week and downloaded my window sticker from Ford - ordered a ARE tonneau cover today - but after measuring the height of my Yamaha EF3000iSEB generator - I think it won't fit under the tonneau cover and now gotta go with an ARE topper.

Question now is which one? Cab Height (highest quality) or sloped roof (shed window up and over Airstream)...

I guess there could be worse problems to have - BTW the Yamaha generator was used today for 4 1/2 hours - Love It!!!
YUP, Won't fit. I have a Honda eu3000isa generator...Thats why I have the retrax electric Slide top,,....

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Got my VIN this week and downloaded my window sticker from Ford - ordered a ARE tonneau cover today - but after measuring the height of my Yamaha EF3000iSEB generator - I think it won't fit under the tonneau cover and now gotta go with an ARE topper.

Question now is which one? Cab Height (highest quality) or sloped roof (shed window up and over Airstream)...

I guess there could be worse problems to have - BTW the Yamaha generator was used today for 4 1/2 hours - Love It!!!
We have a 3000 generator and it fits perfectly (alright, not perfectly but pretty damn close) under the Trac Rac tonneau cover. It fits because the tonneau cover has a little wiggle room - works great. Don't have pictures readily available, but really it works great.
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:33 PM   #48
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Are you sure? If that is true then I'm gonna stick with the tonneau cover - that's my first choice!

Is there a few inches clearance or does your Trac Rac slide right over it? Was going to go run over to the dealership on Sunday with my Yamaha EF3000iSEB measurements and see if the height would be under the bed rails....

Otherwise its an ARE cover with perhaps a Bed Vault so no one can see what's in there - with the generator sitting on top for when I take it out with me - now that's gonna be expensive...

Brad, you got my hopes up....
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Damn - I feel like Brett Farve here - to tonneau or topper - gamble and hope my EF3000iSEB will fit under my A.R.E tonneau cover (love the look of the tonneau vice having a topper) or be safe, with more function, and order an A.R.E. topper....

And if I go with a topper... which one? The "top of the line" A.R.E. Z Series which is cab height (like the quality of the components in their Z series) or the cool looking A.R.E. TW Series - like the height and look, directs wind over the top of the Airstream, but will it impede my ability to enter parking structures, and the windows, latches, etc. are not the same "OEM" type quality of the "Z-Series"...

Perhaps a few frosty beverages and an afternoon of watching football will help me make this choice...

Which topper do you think would look best on a Ford F-350 King Ranch SRW - the A.R.E. Z Series or the A.R.E. TW Series - help a brother out here...
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Stay with the close-fit cab height type. Period. The other only hurts FE and the larger sail area is no help either. My truck and trailer were 60" apart. CUMMINS and others will tell you that TV/TT must be within 30" for TV aero to benefit TT aero resistance. Increased sail area, and increased area above the tailgate is going the wrong direction for aero purposes.

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And go with the most secure latches possible. (Any way to lock the tailgate latch is a good step, too).
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Are you sure? If that is true then I'm gonna stick with the tonneau cover - that's my first choice!

Is there a few inches clearance or does your Trac Rac slide right over it? Was going to go run over to the dealership on Sunday with my Yamaha EF3000iSEB measurements and see if the height would be under the bed rails....

Otherwise its an ARE cover with perhaps a Bed Vault so no one can see what's in there - with the generator sitting on top for when I take it out with me - now that's gonna be expensive...

Brad, you got my hopes up....
Absolutely it fits. The tonneau cover touches the gas cap on the top of the generator. As long as you position the generator so that it fits between the rails that are part of the cover you will absolutely be fine. Let me know if you need pictures and I will oblige.
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For whatever this is worth; not saying this is right for everyone - just what we did and and works great for us. Again, it is the Trac Rac tonneau cover (racks removed in these pictures).

Notice the hydraulic lift (Northern Tool) we use to get the generator at least close to the lift gate height - helps a lot getting the generator into the truck bed. The other thing is that once I get the generator loaded into the truck bed it stays there - just run the electrical cord into the generator - no fuss no muss.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:09 AM   #53
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If I HAD to get an "old man" topper it,...not Cover but a camper topper would be the Z series...otherwise it would not fit in my garage. Plus I like the clean look of the windows on the side, myself. This is just my opinion.



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Old 02-06-2011, 10:32 AM   #54
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Two things I will comment on; don't do any under coating as every body shop in the north can tell if it was under coated, it rusts twice as fast. If you are really concerned then do a cathodic protection system. Second, you'll wish you had a 3.73 rear end before it's all over. The 3.55 might be a better mileage setup but it's not the best for towing IMHO.

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Two things I will comment on; don't do any under coating as every body shop in the north can tell if it was under coated, it rusts twice as fast. If you are really concerned then do a cathodic protection system. Second, you'll wish you had a 3.73 rear end before it's all over. The 3.55 might be a better mileage setup but it's not the best for towing IMHO.

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Wow,,..I ordered 2011 f250 with the 3.31 on mine. Tows great is mountains and valleys. No worries at all,plenty of power... but then again mine weighs less than his Classic.

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Shane - kicking me in the "jimmy"?

If I do have to go with the "Old Man Topper" - I want to see what everyone thinks looks best. As I google the web I'm coming up short on example pictures. BTW - great pic of a Super Duty with the A.R.E. Z-series on it - Shane, you know I value your opinion...

Pap - Hoping that "800 ft lbs w i d e torque band" will make up for my 3.55 locking rear end with the 20's (should work out to be the same gearing as Shane's rig).

I feel pretty good on that decision since my Touareg with 407lbs torque pulled fine - granted I can really load up the truck and more importantly, the Airstream now that I'm going with a beefier TV...

Heading out to the Ford dealer now with measurments in hand - Like I said, I know the topper is "more functional" but I like the ideal of the tonneau, both the "look" and the ability for no one to see what is in there...

So - please - more commnets on the two model toppers apprecitated - I need to make my decesion on Monday when "Cap World" opens up - keep the order I placed on Saturday with the tonneau cover - or go with a topper and if so, which one?

The only decesion I have made is that either way - I'm going with A.R.E. as my manufacturer...
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I've had an Access tonneau cover for 10 years on two different trucks and it is an amazing product. 130 degrees in Arizona to -35 in Idaho and Wyoming; 3-4 feet of snow and all manner of ice; just brush it off or go fast down the road, doesn't matter. Darn thing looks brand new. Very versatile in that it rolls up when you need the bed for tall or odd shapes.

Even though I have an F-250, I added the Firestone air rides and I would definately do that again. Very handy when towing, more stable IMHO.
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...you'll wish you had a 3.73 rear end before it's all over...
this is not available with the new diesel except on DRW trucks

the pic posted by pill shows the rear window lip which covers the tail gate OR integrated step...

the Z series looks nicer imo, gives the truck a giant excursion look...

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...8&d=1151614559

IF the side windows have extra tint/film added along with the back glass,

this blocks 95 of light penetration, creating sort of a 1way view OUT only feature...

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...6&d=1144027684

this is handy for hiding bodies...

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...7&d=1193879613

it's doubtful that the TW series has any impact on airflow OVER around the stream...

the bug splatter pattern on the a/s end cap is a clue to this.

also it's not easy to mount a RACK on top of the TW series (bikes/yaks/canoes),

while the Z series is designed with rack/box add ons as a possibility.

IF one needs the extra 3-4 inches of entry height the TW provides that.
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the Z looks fast even when not in motion...

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...5&d=1254871393

the fiberglass tonneau lids typically provide 1-2 inches of cover ABOVE the truck side rails...

but coatings, carpet, liners, wheels or stuff placed UNDER the genset will raise it some...

so measure the clearance carefully and with the gotchas in mind.

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Don't remember if I already mentioined this JSF, but have you sat in the NEW Superduty with a moonroof? We have the exact same build minus the seats<KR>,nav,and 350.I ordered mine with all the other options....there is little to no headroom. If I could go back and change it I probably wouldn't,..but that is the only complaint I have about the new Superduty.

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you'll wish you had a 3.73 rear end before it's all over. The 3.55 might be a better mileage setup but it's not the best for towing IMHO.
These new 6 speed automatic's are geared a lot lower. Here's a comparison with some of the older TorqShifts and other trucks in their tow package setup. The gear ratio shown is the gear * diff giving the effective ratio.
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