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Old 07-08-2014, 09:23 PM   #1
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open to all thoughts on used tow vehicle.

We are fulltiming in a avion 34w 1984. Triple axle, 10k lbs ish...., not sure of the tounge weight. My father has the 2500 yukon with the 6.0. It would be fine i think but the milage is not pretty.

Anyway....advise on 3/4 or 1 ton, gas diesel etc is welcome. I want to be able to go where i want to without going overboard if it is not needed. Dont want to spend a bunch on it, kinda defeats the purpose of selling out and being out of debt.

Let me have it!
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:51 PM   #2
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I use a 2003 F250 4X4 with a 6.8L V10. Drinks gas....but she tows!!
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:46 PM   #3
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That is a whole lot of trailer! Go with a one-ton minimally to get the job done "right." You might even narrow it down to duallies only. If you plan to drive much of the time a diesel will probably pay for itself pretty quickly.

Whatever you do please don't try to tow your beast with a minivan.

Congrats on going full-time! Please post some pics if you have time.
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:24 AM   #4
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You can get a Ford Excursion with this same engine. Some of the early ones had the 7.3 Diesel engine in it. The newer ones had the 6.0L Diesel which most folks avoid. I prefer the low maintenace and simplicity of the V10 gas engine. The V10 is bullet proof other than a few spark plug issues. Ford stopped making the Excursion in 2005 as a result of pressure from the tree huggers. It is a F-250/350 running gear in an SUV. So how come they still make the pickup, it is just as not green. You want one with a tow package. The V10 version had a 3.73 axle and the tow version had a 4.30 axle in it. At least in the 2WD version. These things have a 44 gallon gas tank and you will find out why. Mine gets between 8-9 towing at 65-70 MPH. It gets about 11 MPG empty. The version with the 3.73 axle gets better mileage empty but it may not be real peppy pulling your rig. It would need a trans cooler at the least. You can pick these up pretty cheap if you can find one. I paid $7000 for mine and put about $1000 into is on maintenance. You can buy a TON of gas for the $40k more I would have paid for a new truck. When you consider maintenance costs of a diesel, I think the gas hog nature of the V10 is not that big of a deal. I bought my Excursion for about what it costs to fix a diesel that died.

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Old 07-09-2014, 07:38 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advise. Please keep it coming.

Thought i would tell you that the original owner towed this all over the south with a full size bronco v8 for years. Lol. He upsized when he started going north.
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:41 PM   #6
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Here is a pic when we were looking at it.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:18 PM   #7
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There is a wonderful thread about towing with a Honda Odyssey. hehe
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:21 PM   #8
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The tail wagging the dog. Find a good used 2005+ Ford F-250 with either the V-10 (6.8) or the V-8 (5.4). Both will tow your 34' no problem and both engines and transmissions are bullet proof and cheap keep. Yes, the mileage isn't what a new $60,000 diesel will give you, but it will haul anything and you will have low maintenance issues. My 2008 V-10 has 142,000 miles with no mechanical issues except a cruise control sensor. Best truck I've ever owned in 55 years of driving.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:13 PM   #9
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Pappy is right, hard to beat a V-10 Ford. I plan on keeping mine till the wheels fall off.

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The tail wagging the dog. Find a good used 2005+ Ford F-250 with either the V-10 (6.8) or the V-8 (5.4). Both will tow your 34' no problem and both engines and transmissions are bullet proof and cheap keep. Yes, the mileage isn't what a new $60,000 diesel will give you, but it will haul anything and you will have low maintenance issues. My 2008 V-10 has 142,000 miles with no mechanical issues except a cruise control sensor. Best truck I've ever owned in 55 years of driving.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:37 PM   #10
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diesel and I'm ok

>",,, When you consider maintenance costs of a diesel, I think the gas hog nature of the V10 is not that big of a deal."

Must be the type/brand of diesel engine?
I haven't seen this exorbitant high maintenance cost everyone talks about. Maintenance isn't that bad with a Cummins.
250 gas vs 250 diesel or 2500 gas vs 2500 diesel ; You still have to change transmission fluid in both type trucks, if automatics. If a manual you have clutches in both. Grease for all the fittings, air filters, universal joints, anti-freeze, differential oil. AC in both, if you want or not. Yeah all those items are in gas and diesel trucks.

New diesel trucks have that urea stuff now, that's true. I don't know how expensive it is.
I do pay more for oil, three gallons at a change, but that's ok. More oil better cooling.
I don't have to change sparkplugs or sparkplug wires. (Diesel trucks radio will play better because of no sparkplugs).
Oil filter are about the same, (unless you go cheap on gas engine oil filter).
Fuel filter are about $13-15 bucks for diesel truck, unless you get cheap diesel that has water in it, fuel filters are easy to change, and just regular interval.
Both trucks gas and diesel have shocks they probably wear about the same(if you get a good brand shock). Diesel truck is Easier on brake pads, if you have a exhaust brake. They both have fuel injectors.
Tires, I would think you would want a load range E on a gas truck, like a diesel, if you were serious about towing.
I guess if you like a lot of rpm on a hill, or you plan to stay in flat land , gas would be ok. Yeah I don't see this super-high maintenance cost thing. Maybe its the two battery thing? I do have two batteries under the hood. Diesel fuel is $3.59 a gallon, thats like premium gasoline price?
I had a gas truck, and I can't go back. It was like 'rowing a boat or something' getting though the mountains, planning your moves for on-coming hills, dodging tractor trailers. I was wore out when arriving at campgrounds.
I have the cool 'rattle', but rattle is a gas engine is bad.
whatever, to each is own.
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We tow a 2014 31' Classic that weighs around 9,300 pounds loaded for camping. The pickup bed and it's cap house two 2,000 watt Honda gen sets, eleven gallons of gas in two containers, grill with 20 pound propane tank, three 6 gallon water containers that are full, camping chairs, collapsed ladder, several hundred pounds in tools and 50 amp & 30 amp power cords with assorted power pigtails and other stuff.

Entire rig was 18,680 on the Cat scales when new.

Thus I knew I wanted a 2012 Dodge 2500HD 4x4 crew cab and short bed with all the towing options. The axle ratings total 11,510 pounds and the OEM Michelins have greater capacity than that. I run around 10,500 pounds on the truck axles when towing.

The Cummins engine brake is ideal in the mountains to save brake wear and control speed on steep descents.

Real scale numbers are a necessity in making a tow vehicle purchase. Wishful thinking does not cut it.
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