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Old 08-10-2008, 06:38 PM   #1
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OH yea baby titan tows nice..

Well I finally got my trailer ready to bring in for skin repair and last year I had to give up my tundra which I heard would not be a good tow vehicle for my soveriegn anyway . I picked up a used 2004 titan 5.6 9500 pounds towing capc. I would say this truck has PLENTY of power to pull I love the truck good vehicle .

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Old 08-11-2008, 06:01 PM   #2
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Holy Cow dont say you are towing a 31 ft with a tundra or a titan. Oh my
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:22 PM   #3
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Well, the 2004 Titan with the "big tow" package has a lower-geared rear end, trailer mirrors, transmission temperature gauge, etc. To ensure you have the "BT" package, check your documentation or look for the transmission temp gauge... a good indicator.

The 2004 Titans have had temperature issues on the rear differential and problems with blown axle seals. If you are going to tow, I recommend swapping out the old steel cover (which may show signs of heat and corrosion) with a new cast aluminum cover. The PML aftermarket cover holds 3/4 quart more gear oil and the finned aluminum sheds heat better than the old steel cover. Nissan also recommends changing to a 75-140 synthetic oil. The PML cover has an NPT port for a differential temp gauage... a nice add on.

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I put this cover on my Titan. It's a real improvement.

As for the blown axle seals, there are a couple of workarounds to acheive better venting. I'm a fan of the True-Trac differential. It costs a few bucks, but it's a major improvement for the Dana 44 rear (Titan). I'm going to swap in the True-Trac before I do any serious towing. With the True-Trac in, the rear end is no longer the weak link.

You also may want to look at the rear spring shackles. The PRG shackles are another item I consider a mandatory aftermarket improvement.

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I also recommend something like the Roadmaster Active Suspension for the Titan. Oh, and the stock shocks are, as you might imagine, terrible. The Icons are fine for the rears. I like Bilsteins on the front.

Here's the thing, MrC... I'm not going to get into whether or not you should pull a Sovereign (not sure the year or size) with a 2004 Titan. I would need a lot more information before I could even posit an informed opinion. You are right that the Titan has good power and torque. It does, however, have some weak spots like the rear end and in some suspension components. These are my friendly suggestions for upgrade as a current Titan owner.
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:53 PM   #4
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Just passed 70k miles on my Titan with some 33k of it (over the past three years) towing my 31' Sovereign. Other than having the Service Bulletin done on the brakes, I have had zero mechanical problems.

17mpg solo. 12+/- towing.

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Old 08-11-2008, 09:27 PM   #5
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I have the power

My Tradewind is lighter weight than a Sovereign, but I'm totally happy with my Titan's towing performance (2007 LE, 4x4, big tow pkg). I don't get pushed around the highway, can pass effortlessly and quickly, and I towed loaded up a continuous curvy 25% grade on wet pavement last weekend without a problem.

In all fairness, a 70s vintage 30-31 footer is about 3000 lb lighter than recent models. However, Rich Luhr (Airstream Life) was pulling his 30 ft. Bunkhouse all over America with a Nissan Armada (basically a Titan with a slightly shorter wheel base). I've gotten some unexpected reactions to towing an Airstream with a Titan. I've been berated several times, once quite agressively, for towing an American icon with a "piece of Japanese crap". Last weekend another camper in Amicalola Falls State Park insisted I must have used a different vehicle to get my trailer up the mountain on that 25% grade.
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The Titan is manufactured in Canton, Mississippi. It's also won a fair number of awards. In my opinion, the Titan and the Tundra have pushed the "Big Three" into building better 1/2 ton trucks.

When I was in college, I bought a little Toyota pickup. I put a quarter million miles on it and the most serious repair I ever did was to replace a clutch. It's probably still on the road somewhere. When I went truck shopping in '04, I looked at everything on the market in the 1/2 ton truck range. I liked the Nissan the best. The Nissan hasn't been as reliable as I hoped, but I have no major complaints. Nissan covered the front brakes until they were done right. I've blown a rear axle seal due to differential heat and poor venting but that's fixed now.

As for comments, where I'm from it is generally considered impolite for a stranger to comment upon a man's choice in a rifle, a dog or a truck.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:31 AM   #7
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My oldest son use to work at the Nissan engine plant in Decherd, TN. in the computer department. He would oversee the computers which operate the robotic arms in the plant. He said they would have engines on stands running at high rpm and the exhaust headers were red hot.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:41 AM   #8
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Hang on to your Titan. Word is Nissan will cease production of the truck. Sales are hurting big time. Newer vehicles will be a rebadged Chrysler product.

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I've heard the same. I was planning to trade in my 05 Nissan Armada for another one at 100k miles but the Armada will almost surely be discontinued by then. So far we've done 70k miles, almost all of which are towing miles. We've documented our experiences with it, which have been generally good.

As for rude comments about towing with a "Japanese" truck, you could point out that the Armada and Titan are built exclusively in Canton MS, where as some of the "American" trucks are built in Mexico.
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My oldest son use to work at the Nissan engine plant in Decherd, TN. in the computer department. He would oversee the computers which operate the robotic arms in the plant. He said they would have engines on stands running at high rpm and the exhaust headers were red hot.
I have heard of these tests too David which includes the Nissan VQ v6 series engine.

We have been using the VQ v6 engines to tow with for over 12 years. They are very strong performers and have never let us down.

This engine series has been on the WARDS 10 best engines list for a record 13 years running. Nissan's VQ Engine Receives Ward's 10-Best Engines Award | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET

Like no vehicle brand the Nissan's aren't perfect, but they get the job done. Like a previous poster stated, they have helped push the NA auto makers into building a better product.
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:33 AM   #11
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When I here MPG rateings it makes me glad I bought my superduty. I get the same when towing. The added stability and Towing capacity for me is a no brainer.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:32 AM   #12
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I have a 2005 Titan I pull my A/S with. I love the truck. It pulls the A/S with little or no real effort. Without pulling, it really is a pretty fun vehicle to drive, especially for a truck! I plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:37 PM   #13
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Something not well publicised, is if you tow with your Titan for any significant time, you should drain and fill your differential much more frequently, in some cases as short an interval as 15,000 miles.
Also, if the Titan continues, it will be a rebadged Dodge built in Mexico. I have known about this for some time, but have not been able to say anything until I have seen it from other sources.
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Old 08-12-2008, 04:15 PM   #14
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All the goodies added..

I bought the truck used from dealer it has all the bells and whisle including the BT set up and new rear end (which I guese was under warrenty) the shocks were replaced with rancho off road shock from what I see . Also if has the K/N cold intake and dual exhaust get a little more power (which means a lot more gas..damn...) but it tows nice no pushing or torgue to be honest I am suprised it being considered a 1/2 ton vehicle. Towed the airstream to nashua stateline super store on the highway at 60 to 65 mph not a problem ..

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