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Old 08-12-2008, 04:20 PM   #15
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Wonder if you can go synthetic for titan?

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Something not well publicised, is if you tow with your Titan for any significant time, you should drain and fill your differential much more frequently, in some cases as short an interval as 15,000 miles.
Also, if the Titan continues, it will be a rebadged Dodge built in Mexico. I have known about this for some time, but have not been able to say anything until I have seen it from other sources.
My Titan is out of warrenty I wonder if you can use a syntheic tranny fluid that might help out with frequent changing and put less ware and tare of it?


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Old 08-12-2008, 04:57 PM   #16
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The issue with Titan differentials and fluid changes stems from the earlier models without the finned differential covers which aid in cooling. When Nissan changed to the finned covers they also changed to synthetic lube in the diff. which again changes the scenario.

But, if you feel safer by changing the lube every 15K, then by allmeans do so.

As far as the Titan becoming a rebadged Dodge - well I haven't heard that, but I did hear that Nissan and Chrysler were going to work together on a small block V-8 diesel with the help of Cummins. But, who knows, all might change and things might go away quickly in these changing times.

BTW, I love my Titan and the way it tows.
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if the Titan continues, it will be a rebadged Dodge built in Mexico.
so...does that mean that its really going to be a Dodge, with the word "Nissan" painted on the side? or will it still really be a Nissan, w/ the word "Dodge" painted on the side?
(BIG difference...)
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:16 PM   #18
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If you have a 2004 Titan and a sympathetic dealer (oxymoron?), you might be able to get a finned aluminum differential cover at no cost. I just liked the PML aftermarket cover because of the increased fluid capacity. Dropping in three quarts of Mobil 1 75-140 synthetic gear oil was not cheap, but neither is swapping in a rear. I'm a firm believer in the high end synthetic lubes.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:14 AM   #19
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This is a hot topic. TowVehicles. I guess it is the same for auto mfg also. No 1 here is going to go out sell there vehicle and buy another. But the debate continues. I look at the differentials on those foreign vehicles and I just cant beleve they dont snap. My 4 wheeler (Polaris)=american. ITs rearend is just about as big. They warn me 1500 lbs max towing. For me I had to rebuild my 10 bolt chevy 3 times in 186000 miles my ford 8.8 in my crown vic not once in over 350000. I donated the car and it is still rolling.
I guess when I see 80000 or even 120000 I am not to impressed. I like to get miles on my vehicles and not worry. I know people that have gone up to 650000 on there ford vans makeing small deliveries (courier). I have seen Toyota go high miles but never towing or haulin. I do like the topic though. I also Like synthetic, Mobil 1 or Castrol
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:48 PM   #20
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Well remember the old days just a car no nothing..

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This is a hot topic. TowVehicles. I guess it is the same for auto mfg also. No 1 here is going to go out sell there vehicle and buy another. But the debate continues. I look at the differentials on those foreign vehicles and I just cant beleve they dont snap. My 4 wheeler (Polaris)=american. ITs rearend is just about as big. They warn me 1500 lbs max towing. For me I had to rebuild my 10 bolt chevy 3 times in 186000 miles my ford 8.8 in my crown vic not once in over 350000. I donated the car and it is still rolling.
I guess when I see 80000 or even 120000 I am not to impressed. I like to get miles on my vehicles and not worry. I know people that have gone up to 650000 on there ford vans makeing small deliveries (courier). I have seen Toyota go high miles but never towing or haulin. I do like the topic though. I also Like synthetic, Mobil 1 or Castrol
I remember when my dad purchased another 31 foot trailer don't remember the name but but we towed it with a 1979 ford Ltd and I dont think it was decked out with transmission coolers and heavy duty diffs just a big motor . I loved that car whata boat...ahh memorys.
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To answer the questions, in no particular oder:
Yes, you can use synthetic fluid in the transmission, as long as you do a complete fluid exchange.
The new Titan will be a rebadged Dodge Ram, built in Mexico. I don't know but what I'd rather have a rebadged Nissan built in the U.S. as a Dodge, but that's another story for another thread, maybe in another forum...
The basis for the 15K fluid change is what trailer you tow, how many miles you are towing, terrain and speed towed at, etc. IF you are towing at max towing capacity in the mountains at high speeds over 75% of the time, then you need the 15K change, with synthetic gear lube. It is easier to make a blanket recommendation rather than sit on the service drive with a slide rule and calculate exactly when the fluid should be changed.
Also, the Maxima is going to be available with a diesel powerplant next year, and the Quest will be built in Japan, along with a Murano convertible. The 350Z will have a larger engine (3.7 liter) and be renamed a 370Z.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:33 PM   #22
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I love those old boats. The 1 thing different on yesterdays cars and todays is the old trannys had better material for clutch plates. In the 78 they started with Metric trannys, Nylon clutches and when they got how they were always in the pan in bits and peices. Then cam early overdrives.Fluid held it in gear, when that failed cuz of heat those went into OD and reverse which ment they blew. Now more electronics and springs and pump pressure. Meens less failure if properly maintained. My point is Before the early fuel issue in the 70s engines ran at a higher RPM frames where beefey and cars where rear wheel drive except for Olds Toro ect. Todays cars run at lower rpms there is more pressure on drive parts as well as engine bearings especially with tight tolerances. Even before that 4:10 gears werent uncommon. My 41 plymouth came with them.That little flathead was buzzin
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. . . . As for comments, where I'm from it is generally considered impolite for a stranger to comment upon a man's choice in a rifle, a dog or a truck.
Same here for the most part. But the sight of woman towing without assistance must make some forget their manners. ( OMG, didja see 'er hitch up that thang by 'erself? ) Maybe while my dog growls on command I could discretely flash a glimpse of my rifle . . .
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"Japanese" truck, you could point out that the Armada and Titan are built exclusively in Canton MS, where as some of the "American" trucks are built in Mexico.
Some of those "Japanese" comments came from members of the Greatest Generation. I wasn't around for WWII, but the memories and distrust for all things Japanese must remain vivid for some. I have utmost respect for them so I just smile and go on. The others had no excuse except ignorant rudeness. I'll remember the "made in America" response next time.

Thanks all for the good info in this thread. I knew about the rear differential and brake problems with some of the earlier Titans but didn't know about the 15K fluid change. Most all of mine are towing miles.
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My grandfather and great uncle fought in WWII, the brown water Navy and SeaBees, respectively. My uncle did two tours in Vietnam as an infantryman. I'm a military veteran myself, though I was lucky enough to serve in a time of relative peace.

My grandfather died 30 years ago. My great uncle is over 90. The guys who actually fought the Japanese in the 40s have to be at least 80 years old. Now, if I bump into a guy who is offended by my Nissan Titan because he lost buddies on Guadacanal, Tarawa or Peleliu, I'm not going to say a word. That guy has earned his right to have any opinion he wants. If some guy in his 50s who never served a day in uniform gets in my grill about my choice of vehicles because he thinks it reflects on my patriotism, I might not be as gracious as you.

With the vintage Tradewind, I don't think the Titan needs all of the aftermarket changes I recommend. I'm a little prone to "over engineer" stuff. (Get thee behind me ye Grade 8 bolts!) The Dana 44 rear is really the Titan's weak link, but total failures are still relatively rare. If you have the aluminum (post 04) differential cover and use the heavier synthetic, you should be fine. If you were pulling a heavier load, I'd suggest the aftermarket shackles and some kind of suspension upgrade. The stock shocks are pretty much junk. When you have to replace them, I strongly recommend going with Bilstien or a similar product. You'll notice a difference. I also recommend gauges for the transmission and differential. Why guess when you can know?

Oh, and if the dog and gun approach don't work... the women of Montana have been known to use chewing tobacco to emphasize a particular point to a doubting man.
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. . . . Oh, and if the dog and gun approach don't work... the women of Montana have been known to use chewing tobacco to emphasize a particular point to a doubting man.
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Yea that year and model weight in at

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My Tradewind is lighter weight than a Sovereign, but I'm totally happy with my Titan's towing performance (2007 LE, 4x4, big tow pkg). I don't get pushed around the highway, can pass effortlessly and quickly, and I towed loaded up a continuous curvy 25% grade on wet pavement last weekend without a problem.

In all fairness, a 70s vintage 30-31 footer is about 3000 lb lighter than recent models. However, Rich Luhr (Airstream Life) was pulling his 30 ft. Bunkhouse all over America with a Nissan Armada (basically a Titan with a slightly shorter wheel base). I've gotten some unexpected reactions to towing an Airstream with a Titan. I've been berated several times, once quite agressively, for towing an American icon with a "piece of Japanese crap". Last weekend another camper in Amicalola Falls State Park insisted I must have used a different vehicle to get my trailer up the mountain on that 25% grade.
@5000 lbs to play it safe I have @3000 lbs to play with.
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The Titan is manufactured in Canton, Mississippi. It's also won a fair number of awards. In my opinion, the Titan and the Tundra have pushed the "Big Three" into building better 1/2 ton trucks.

When I was in college, I bought a little Toyota pickup. I put a quarter million miles on it and the most serious repair I ever did was to replace a clutch. It's probably still on the road somewhere. When I went truck shopping in '04, I looked at everything on the market in the 1/2 ton truck range. I liked the Nissan the best. The Nissan hasn't been as reliable as I hoped, but I have no major complaints. Nissan covered the front brakes until they were done right. I've blown a rear axle seal due to differential heat and poor venting but that's fixed now.

As for comments, where I'm from it is generally considered impolite for a stranger to comment upon a man's choice in a rifle, a dog or a truck.
It is assembled there,with mostly Japanese parts.
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They're all a mix of foreign & domestic parts and labor

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It is assembled there,with mostly Japanese parts.




Federal Govt. statistics for domestic content of parts and labor (US & Canada):

Titan 65%

Tundra 80%

Ridgeline 75%

Dodge RAM 68%

Ford F series 80%

Escalade 66%

Avalanche 66%

Silverado 85%

Suburban 65%

Tahoe 66%

Denali 66%

Yukon 66%

H3 Hummer 77%
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