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Old 08-17-2015, 05:11 PM   #1
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Nissan with a Cummins?

On my way home from getting my new-to-me diesel Duramax, I was listening to the local radio station. I couldn't believe it when a Nissan ad came on where they were speaking of the new 2016 Titan with a 5.0L Cummins. Just went to their webpage, and sure enough, there it is. Not too hip to the way it looks outside, but I am surprised that Nissan teamed up w Cummins to get it's share of the larger truck market. Here's the link. Your thoughts please?

The New 2016 Nissan Titan | Nissan USA
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:26 PM   #2
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I have been viewing the reviews of the pre-production XD testing by the Auto reporters and it got good reviews. Stopped by a couple Nissan dealers to see when they expect to start taking orders or if they know when they will be receiving one that I could drive. They have not a clue because Nissan's not telling them anything. Originally Cummins was working with Dodge to put their diesel in the new 1/2 ton, but that fell through. I have been in the market for a new TV, was getting serious about a Ford F250 diesel with Lariat package, but found out about the Nissan XD and decided to wait for the final tech specs before I pull the trigger. Hope it comes out soon.
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It's discussed in older threads. All anyone knows is speculation. Nissan needs the help, but will it as a truck bridge the gap between half and three quarter ton I guess is the real question.


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Old 08-17-2015, 05:28 PM   #4
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This is only new to the USA. Nissan has had medium diesel trucks for years. The reports I found, from the far east, Africa, Mexico, South America, etc. all were great! Sadly in 2015 they stopped sending them to Mexico. I never got around to looking at towing capability as we had no RV plans then.
VW also has a medium diesel made in Argentina, very expensive compared to the Nissan.
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:40 PM   #5
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The RAM 1500 Ecodiesel now on its 3rd year has raised a lot of heads in the half ton market, it's selling very well & loved by us owners. Makes good sense that the other manufacturers are jumping into the half ton diesel market.
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The same engine is allegedly going to be put in the Tundra.
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That truck unbefugly!
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Nice specs on the engine. Not as overkill (for out AS needs) as most modern diesels. I think they might be hitting a "sweet spot" (500ft/lbs torque), if the price is not out of sight. However, the styling is a bit strange, but then, I'll have to see it in the flesh for a final judgement on that. In any event, I'm still happy with my Ecoboost, even after previously towing with a Dmax. 420 ft/lbs. is plenty for my needs, and no DEF (one of the reasons I didn't buy another diesel, but that's a different story.....).

of it starting and running. Doesn't look as bad in the vid as it does on the webpage IMHO.
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Comments about the styling? I'd like to see an F150 parked next to it. Seems they copied more than a few queues. Was that a ball in the bed? Going after the gooseneck market? And look, no cooling fins on the rear differential cover. Wonder what they did different to keep the diff from exploding. And a big beefy steering box? Yah, just like my 70 Olds. Wait and see...how the leaders respond.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:43 PM   #10
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I love my Duramax but I never buy a first year engine. Second year I have bought. There is a new Duramax coming in 2017 I believe but I'll wait till 18.
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There is a new Duramax coming in 2017 I believe but I'll wait till 18.

Is that the GMC ToroFlow diesel ? All things old are new again?
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The same engine is allegedly going to be put in the Tundra.

Spoke with a few Toyota sales reps and a manager. Twice, independently, was told that idea fell through due to projected low share in the market, or similar jargon. Which makes sense anyway. If they put a heavy diesel in a Tundra it wouldn't have but 476 lb payload capacity.




As for Nissan, it's such an ugly duckling I didn't bother researching it. However, if it had 2,000 lb payload as rumored, and a diesel, that would be an incredible truck. So many it seems on the fence between 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton. This is the intended market I would assume. Nissan reliability and Cummins reputation, that could be a sweet truck for the blind.



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On my way home from getting my new-to-me diesel Duramax...
Congrats man.

Tell us more about it. Would love to hear your thoughts after driving it a bit. I just got in from test driving a Chevy crew cab 2500 HD Duramax at my local dealer. How they spec a motor at 397 HP and sleep at night baffles me. Seriously, just 3 mo ponies. But I was extremely impressed.

I drove a Denali HD 2500 a few weeks back with Duramax. Honestly, overall quality, ride, sound, feel, fit and finish, these are #1 and #2 of the 8-9 trucks I've test drove in last two months. Ordering a silver Chevy 2500 HD 4x4 Duramax/Allison with long bed would be real easy about now. Something just feels right about it.

Hope you enjoy your new truck. Look forward to hearing more.



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As the owner of a 2006 Chevy Duramax, at this time I would, based upon all of the recalls specifically on the Chevy trucks, I'd wait to see if their QA improves before I'd purchase their products. I have looked very closely at the Ford 2500 diesel and I am impressed, but ugly or not, I'm going to wait to see, up close, and drive the Nissan XD before making a major purchase like this.
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I read that the new Titan will not be built on the existing platform, but rather the heavier duty NV platform. The NV is available in 1500, 2500, and 3500 versions. That suggests that the new Titan may be a 3/4 ton and not a half ton, whatever those labels mean today. Will be interesting to see where Nissan positions it.
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Yeah, no kidding, that would be interesting. I had heard 1/2 ton rumors only, but with much better payload, which would seem difficult in current configuration when one factors in the additional weight of the diesel.

The only thing I know for certain about this new Nissan is that they won't be parking it indoors at dealerships near walls of glass windows. If that truck got a glimpse of itself reflecting off the glass the whole wall is coming down.


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Yes, it's a half-ton, and yes, it has a gooseneck ball factory installed. Towing capacity is upwards of 10,000 pounds.
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I didn't think Nissan could make a truck any uglier than the current Titan.
Wow! I was wrong. Maybe some will like it. I think the styling is fugly.

I think a lighter weight 4l V8 diesel with 300hp 500 tq would be perfect for a half ton truck. If Toyota would just update/refresh or redesign the 4.5l V8 used in the Land Cruiser in the rest of the world, the Tundra could be sporting a nice diesel with 260hp 480lb/ft.
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looks like they re-badged a Ford i'd want to see the interior as the gas ones i have looked at were not very well done. i did like the fold flat rear area but i wonder what that does to the comfort of those back seats.

Toyota Tundra and a diesel?? i'd say that is not likely as their market share is so small that investing in something like this will become problematic. it would require a rethink of the current truck set up, more load capacity, a 6 1/2' bed with the crew cab and so on. but, a diesel would solve my biggest problem with the Tundra and the reason i sold the last two i owned, no torque and constant shifting while towing.
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I keep looking for cleaner styling, less chrome especially in some of those awful huge grill/led lighting combos; will they start making them flash like a mid-century jukebox. More purpose oriented and less like a demo product from the truck stop accessory store.

This is an interesting half-ton truck to add to the mix. There are some genuinely different approaches among manufacturers. Ford has aluminum body and gas Ecoboost, Ram 3.0 Ecodiesel, GM and Toyota same old thing, and now a Nissan Cummins 5 liter. Starting to fill that gap between light and heavy duty that matches most Airstream towing needs.
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