View Poll Results: Tow Vehicle choices
Toyota Tundra 4 11.11%
Nissan Titan 5 13.89%
Chevy or GMC 16 44.44%
Dodge Ram 2 5.56%
Ford 9 25.00%
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:32 AM   #29
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Went down to Dodge the next day and picked up a 2500 quad cab 4x2 with a Cummins diesel. Added the reese anti-sway set-up and never looked back (or had to). Towing should be fun, not an exercise in ulcers wondering if you got the power to pass a broken down VW van climbing a two lane hill or the brakes to come down the other side. I am sure any of the Big 3 diesels would get the job done. Now that I have been at this a few years, I guess if you are in a flat state, you could get by, out here in the West, you better have some power or plan on a lot of time going 30mph with the 4ways on.
Great first post....nothing quite like a real world senario. I too have had the longest mile and it isn't fun.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:17 PM   #30
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Thanks. I guess the TV debate will remain a hot one forever. I keep thinking that TV length in proportion to the trailer is a key figure of merit. Seems like that would give the front end more of a lever arm to control the back. I have another 1/2 ton long bed and I might try that to test the theory. The Dodge 2500 was such a radical step up from the 1/2 ton short bed and adding the reese anti-sway attachements at the same time, too many variables to tell exactly what did the trick. It was probably a little bit of both.

Heading to Mexico with the rig tomorrow for snorkling and fun on the beach over x-mas, it was Vegas last year.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:33 PM   #31
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Can you say "Hensley"?

Guess I should have mentoned I have used a Hensley Arrow hitch from the get-go since returning to RVing. That is THE cure for short wheelbase problems, although, while that certainly applied to my Grand Cherokee, I don't really consider any crewcab short box pickup, at any GVWR, a short wheelbase.

At $3K, the Hensley is s fair investment but a lot less than a 3/4 ton diesel. Crunching the numbers, I have calculated it would take me about 10 years at today's fuel prices to recoup the cost of a 3/4 ton diesel vs a 1/2 ton gasser that does the job without any problem.

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Old 12-22-2006, 07:06 AM   #32
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I'm not sure I totally agree with that statement. Hensley is a great hitch, but I can't see it overcoming major tow vehicle shotcomings.
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Old 12-22-2006, 04:45 PM   #33
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Having driven a 1/2 ton gasser and now driving a 3/4 ton diesel, I can say from my experience its like "night and day." I will take the heavier more powerful diesel 3/4 ton truck any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Yeah its a big investment, but so what. My 1/2 ton was a big investment also. For my money "piece of mind" and "reserve capacity" (power, payload, etc...) is easily worth the extra capital investment and/or maintenance expenses.
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Guess I should have mentoned I have used a Hensley Arrow hitch from the get-go since returning to RVing. That is THE cure for short wheelbase problems, although, while that certainly applied to my Grand Cherokee, I don't really consider any crewcab short box pickup, at any GVWR, a short wheelbase.

At $3K, the Hensley is s fair investment but a lot less than a 3/4 ton diesel. Crunching the numbers, I have calculated it would take me about 10 years at today's fuel prices to recoup the cost of a 3/4 ton diesel vs a 1/2 ton gasser that does the job without any problem.

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GeeJay - I know I didn't not buy a diesel to recoup any sort of gas savings. I bought it because it pulls like there is no tomorrow and has a lot leftover. While I think it is great you have a Hensley hitch (I think they're very nice myself), they are by no stretch of the imgaination a replacement for a 3/4+ ton tow vehicle w/a diesel, be it a GM, Ford or Dodge. I would rather have a buffer of pulling weight with my Diesel and my current 1k bar Reese dual cam set-up WD, then a gas engine pulling at the edge of it's envelope and a hensely hitch any day of the week. Especially if you're looking for a 34' AS as you mention in your signature which has a GVWR of approx 11,400 lbs. I say this merely as caution to you that you aren't disappointed after the fact, especially on the highways and hills. It never hurts to look, try and compare all of your options, but safety is something you shouldn't discount.

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I have a F-250 Diesel. It tows an 06 31 Classic quite nicely.
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:13 PM   #36
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I helped a fellow forum member earlier this year when they picked up their new to them 78" 31 footer close to me. They showed up with their new Titan V8 extra cab 2 wheel drive version pickup. A long story short,they made it home, but it only took the pull home to make them realize they needed to move up. They now tow with a Dodge 3/4 diesel, and feel a little more comfortable staying within a margin of capacity. The V8 Titan has plenty of grunt to tow most size Airstreams, but I would be on the edge of my seat too, if I were using one to tow my 29' through the mountains.
Our current Ford weighs in at 7,300 lbs. empty, I like the idea of my truck weighing more than my fully loaded trailer. (I don't like being pushed)As for power? you'll find me in the fast lane on every grade.
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Night and day is a good description. July in AZ pulling loaded 34' Excella out of Phoenix on I-17 toward Flagstaff. Must have been 115 outside. Diesel pulled that 6% plus grade no problem and no issues with heating and then on to that climb from out of the movies up off the valley floor up to Page itself.

Highway 93 from Wickenburg, AZ to Kingman, pulled the hills running 2500 rpm on full boost, my dad driving behind in an empty 6 cyl Ford ranger could not keep up on the grades. I am not talking about road warrior stuff here, just maintaining the posted speed limit on some really steep mountain roads.

Both of these drives probably could have been done with a 1/2 ton gasser, Titan or otherwise, but at what cost to equipment, time on the road, driving fatigue during a vacation, and just plane agravation going 35 because you can't pass any of the commercial trucks because you don't have the power to get around.
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It took me very little time towing my sub-4000# Argo on grinding switchbacks on northwestern West Virginia's old fashioned 2-lane US-50 before the Titan's tranny temp gauge redlined. And this was January '04 ... approximately 28 degrees out. My son & I had to take multiple stops to cool down (leave the engine running to have the pumps circulate fluid!). No way I could imagine that in warmer temps.

A 5.6L engine could conceivably do it, but realize the Titan accomplishes a lot of this with lower gearing -- being the only 5-speed 1/2-ton pickup out there. That lower gearing built up a lot of heat in the above case and will result in poor mileage in the end. I think it'd be great for a mini-camper, popup, utility trailer or medium sized boat. It is not up to the task of hard mountain travel in my experience -- and I wouldn't want to be pulling 6000# for long ... and I didn't. Sold it one year ago this month.
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So ALANSD, I see this thread started back in Feb of 2006, what did you finally buy and what have your experiences been so far?
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